<div dir="ltr">Hey Matthew,<div> </div><div>Thanks! Right now I am trying to figure out how to upgrade pootle packages, but after I am done we look at that :)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Ciao <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">Hi Martin, <div> </div><div>maybe if you have time you / we can also work out a minimal secure setup? </div><div> </div><div>Looks like newpootle needs a bit of firewalling to start with: </div> <div> </div><div><div>sudo /sbin/iptables -L -nv</div><div>Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 324 packets, 29890 bytes)</div><div> pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination </div><div> </div><div>Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)</div> <div> pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination </div><div> </div><div>Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 186 packets, 20370 bytes)</div> <div> pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination </div><div> </div><div>Cheers</div> </div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 July 2014 17:46, Matthew Ciao <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Bernie! <div> </div><div>Martin I enclose an apache vhost .conf file that should work out of the box based on my reading/editing of the one in production at the moment. </div> <div> </div><div>There are a few edits so if you intend to use it please remove my comments! :D</div> <div> </div><div>Cheers</div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 July 2014 12:28, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Try logging in as <a href="mailto:bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> You have root on newpootle, but please coordinate with Martin to avoid stepping on each other's toes :-) <div> On 07/29/2014 06:42 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: > Hi Martin, > > do you have any .htaccess files in your sites directories? > > If yes you need to review the AllowOverride directive in your config > files and depending on what is in .htaccess you may need to enable > modules such as mod_rewrite. > > Anyway the first deny directive you have there works for the main Apache > document-root (/) which I assume is /srv/www/ itself: check your > httpd.conf (or main config file under /etc/apache2/) and look for the > default document-root. > > Creating an exception as you did to allow access for /srv/www/ works but > that way you slow down Apache a bit because first it evaluates a deny > then an allow directive for the same document-root. > > If you post all the config files we can understand even better.. :) > > Cheers > > On Wednesday, 30 July 2014, Martin Abente > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> </div><div>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>');>> wrote: > > Hello all, > > The instance is back, I had to made a few changes: > </div>> 1. added ".conf" extension to the site configuration file > 2. temporarily removed caching directives, I still need to figure <div>> what can be use to replace them. </div>> 3. changed some permissions [1]. <div><div>> > > @matthew can you re-check the configuration file? I am not expert in > apache so my fixes could be more like hacks. > > Next step is trying to upgrade pootle version... > > Refs: > 1. > <a href="http://dabase.com/blog/AH01630:_client_denied_by_server_configuration/" target="_blank">http://dabase.com/blog/AH01630:_client_denied_by_server_configuration/</a> > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Matthew Ciao > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> wrote: > > Done! > > Sent it from my private email bashintosh at gmail dot com > > On 29 July 2014 10:43, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> wrote: > > By the way, you don't even have a shell account yet: > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/shell" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/shell</a> > > Please apply now, you can use me as your sponsor. > > On 07/28/2014 07:52 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: > > As a quick suggestion, if you haven't done it already I > recommend to > > start debugging by looking at the Apache logs > (/var/log/apache2 on most > > Debian-based systems). > > > > A general health-check on Apache itself could also include: > > > > * verify the server is running (process) > > * verify the server is listening on the desired ports > (netstat, lsof) > > * check firewall rules (iptables being a good place to > start) > > * inspect vhosts configurations > > > > Lemme know if you need any help Martin, > > > > /Matthew/ > > > > > > On 29 July 2014 01:27, Martin Abente > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: > > > > Ok! > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Bernie Innocenti > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> wrote: > > > > Yes, I did it yesterday. The machine boots, but > the apache > > virtual host > > doesn't seem to work any more. > > > > I'll leave the rest to you! > > > > > > On 07/28/2014 10:53 AM, Martin Abente wrote: > > > Hey Bernie! > > > > > > Did you get the time to update the machine? > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Matthew Ciao > > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Guys please let me know if there's anything > I can do to help! > > > > > > > > > On 25 July 2014 04:01, Martin Abente > > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Bernie! > > > > > > I (literally) just finished my first > round of tests > > setting up a > > > pootle 2.5.1.1 instance from scratch. > The results are > > promising: > > > > > > 1. Setting up a pootle instance from > scratch was very > > > straightforward. > > > 2. Creating a new project and > integrating it with git > > > versioning was also surprisingly > straightforward. > > In fact, > > > no custom bits were require to make > pootle import > > Sugar > > > project and start making commits to > the remote > > repository. > > > > > > Other premature comments: > > > > > > * pootle imported _almost_ all the > languages, but I > > had to > > > manually add languages like > "guarani". I still > > don't know > > > why, ideas? > > > * I still need to check the SL wiki to > have some > > ideas of how > > > it would be better to organize the > projects. IIRC, our > > > previous pootle instance followed > the same sugar > > modules > > > like sucrose, fructose, etc. > Suggestions? > > > > > > > > > I don't think I will have the time to > work on this > > during the > > > weeking (because of the wedding), but if > you could > > make sure the > > > server is ready, I can continue over the > week. > > > > > > > > > Bernie if you don't have time to work on > what Martin needs > > I can > > > step in, no problems at all. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Bernie > Innocenti > > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Martin is taking Pootle, but if you > have time to > > help with > > > it, I think > > > it would be appreciated. > > > > > > I think I'll start the work on > Sunday. Martin, > > would you > > > have time? > > > > > > > > > On 07/21/2014 07:08 AM, Matthew Ciao > wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > it looks like you're already in a > good position > > in terms > > > of help from > > > > rgs and/or icarito so I don't > think I would be > > very useful > > > at the meeting. > > > > > > > > This said, if all goes bad please > involve me in > > the Pootle > > > mission as I > > > > am more than keen to lend a hand! :) > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2014 4:15 AM, "Bernie > Innocenti" > > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +rgs, +icarito (both of which > expressed > > interest in > > > supporting Pootle) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/20/2014 01:36 PM, Martin > Abente wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > What about investing some > minutes this > > week to talk > > > about Pootle's > > > > > status, what is missing and > how can we get > > it back > > > to life? > > > > > > > > > > I suggest this Wednesday 23 > July, 13:00 UTC. > > > > > > > > It's a bit early for me, and > definitely too > > early for rgs. > > > > Can we do 15:00 UTC? > > > > > > > > > > > > In case I miss the meeting, > here's a full > > dump of my mind: > > > > > > > > - you, rgs and icarito > already have root to > > > <a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > > > > - full backups of the old > pootle machine are on > > > freedom, and all of you > > > > have root access there too > > > > > > > > - Sysadmin documentation is > in the usual > > place (the > > > wiki). There are > > > > several pages written by the > previous Pootle > > maintainers: > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate</a> > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle</a> > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5</a> > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle</a> > > > > > > > > The documentation needs to be > consolidated > > into a > > > single page and > > > > updated. *PLEASE*, don't > neglect this step; > > it will > > > save a lot of time > > > > to future maintainers. > > > > > > > > - The newpootle machine is > still running > > Ubuntu 12.04 > > > LTS. I strongly > > > > recommend upgrading it to > 14.04 (trusty) before > > > proceeding. It won't > > > > take more than 1h of work and > I can do this. > > > > > > > > - There's an outdated > instance of Pootle > > already > > > running on newpootle. > > > > It was setup by a previous > volunteer, but never > > > transitioned into > > > > production due to difficulties > with the git > > > integration (iirc, cjl might > > > > have more on this). > > > > > > > > - I strongly recommend > upgrading to the latest > > > release of Pootle before > > > > doing anything else. > > > > > > > > - Then, the database and data > from the > > backups needs > > > to be restored and > > > > probably converted to the > Pootle 2.5 format > > (good luck > > > with Django db > > > > migration!) > > > > > > > > - Finally, the part where all > past > > maintainers seem > > > to get stuck: make > > > > the Pootle <-> git integration > work. I don't > > know what > > > the actual > > > > problem is; pushing to git > should be a basic > > feature > > > of a translation > > > > system and I'm surprised this > can't be made > > to work > > > out of the box. > > > > > > > > - When everything works (and > please test it > > well, > > > Pootle likes to crash > > > > and burn under load), we can > change the DNS > > to point > > > the CNAME > > > > <a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a> > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> to > > > > newpootle. Follow the > Service/nameserver > > > > documentation page to do this, > or I can do > > it in 2 > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > > > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > -- > _ // Bernie Innocenti > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>