<div dir="ltr">Ok!</div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, I did it yesterday. The machine boots, but the apache virtual host doesn't seem to work any more. I'll leave the rest to you! <div class=""> On 07/28/2014 10:53 AM, Martin Abente wrote: > Hey Bernie! > > Did you get the time to update the machine? > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Matthew Ciao <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> </div><div class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>> wrote: > > Â Â Guys please let me know if there's anything I can do to help! > > > Â Â On 25 July 2014 04:01, Martin Abente <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> </div><div class="">> Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: > > Â Â Â Â Hey Bernie! > > Â Â Â Â I (literally) just finished my first round of tests setting up a > Â Â Â Â pootle 2.5.1.1 instance from scratch. The results are promising: > </div>> Â Â Â Â Â 1. Setting up a pootle instance from scratch was very > Â Â Â Â Â Â straightforward. > Â Â Â Â Â 2. Creating a new project and integrating it with git <div class="">> Â Â Â Â Â Â versioning was also surprisingly straightforward. In fact, > Â Â Â Â Â Â no custom bits were require to make pootle import Sugar > Â Â Â Â Â Â project and start making commits to the remote repository. > > Â Â Â Â Other premature comments: > </div>> Â Â Â Â Â * pootle imported _almost_ all the languages, but I had to <div class="">> Â Â Â Â Â Â manually add languages like "guarani". I still don't know > Â Â Â Â Â Â why, ideas? </div>> Â Â Â Â Â * I still need to check the SL wiki to have some ideas of how <div class="">> Â Â Â Â Â Â it would be better to organize the projects. IIRC, our > Â Â Â Â Â Â previous pootle instance followed the same sugar modules > Â Â Â Â Â Â like sucrose, fructose, etc. Suggestions? > > > Â Â Â Â I don't think I will have the time to work on this during the > Â Â Â Â weeking (because of the wedding), but if you could make sure the > Â Â Â Â server is ready, I can continue over the week. > > > Â Â Bernie if you don't have time to work on what Martin needs I can > Â Â step in, no problems at all. > > Â Â Cheers! > > > > > Â Â Â Â On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti </div><div class="">> Â Â Â Â <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> wrote: > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Martin is taking Pootle, but if you have time to help with > Â Â Â Â Â Â it, I think > Â Â Â Â Â Â it would be appreciated. > > Â Â Â Â Â Â I think I'll start the work on Sunday. Martin, would you > Â Â Â Â Â Â have time? > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â On 07/21/2014 07:08 AM, Matthew Ciao wrote: > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Hi folks, > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > it looks like you're already in a good position in terms > Â Â Â Â Â Â of help from > Â Â Â Â Â Â > rgs and/or icarito so I don't think I would be very useful > Â Â Â Â Â Â at the meeting. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > This said, if all goes bad please involve me in the Pootle > Â Â Â Â Â Â mission as I > Â Â Â Â Â Â > am more than keen to lend a hand! :) > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Best, > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Matthew > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > On Jul 21, 2014 4:15 AM, "Bernie Innocenti" > Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> </div>> Â Â Â Â Â Â > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Â Â Â Â Â Â wrote: > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â +rgs, +icarito (both of which expressed interest in > Â Â Â Â Â Â supporting Pootle) > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â On 07/20/2014 01:36 PM, Martin Abente wrote: > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > Hello everyone, > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > What about investing some minutes this week to talk > Â Â Â Â Â Â about Pootle's > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > status, what is missing and how can we get it back > Â Â Â Â Â Â to life? > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â > I suggest this Wednesday 23 July, 13:00 UTC. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â It's a bit early for me, and definitely too early for rgs. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Can we do 15:00 UTC? > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â In case I miss the meeting, here's a full dump of my mind: > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - you, rgs and icarito already have root to > Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - full backups of the old pootle machine are on > Â Â Â Â Â Â freedom, and all of you > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â have root access there too > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - Sysadmin documentation is in the usual place (the > Â Â Â Â Â Â wiki). There are > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â several pages written by the previous Pootle maintainers: > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â The documentation needs to be consolidated into a > Â Â Â Â Â Â single page and > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â updated. *PLEASE*, don't neglect this step; it will > Â Â Â Â Â Â save a lot of time > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â to future maintainers. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - The newpootle machine is still running Ubuntu 12.04 > Â Â Â Â Â Â LTS. I strongly > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â recommend upgrading it to 14.04 (trusty) before > Â Â Â Â Â Â proceeding. It won't > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â take more than 1h of work and I can do this. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - There's an outdated instance of Pootle already > Â Â Â Â Â Â running on newpootle. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â It was setup by a previous volunteer, but never > Â Â Â Â Â Â transitioned into > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â production due to difficulties with the git > Â Â Â Â Â Â integration (iirc, cjl might > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â have more on this). > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - I strongly recommend upgrading to the latest > Â Â Â Â Â Â release of Pootle before > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â doing anything else. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - Then, the database and data from the backups needs > Â Â Â Â Â Â to be restored and > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â probably converted to the Pootle 2.5 format (good luck > Â Â Â Â Â Â with Django db > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â migration!) > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - Finally, the part where all past maintainers seem > Â Â Â Â Â Â to get stuck: make > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â the Pootle <-> git integration work. I don't know what > Â Â Â Â Â Â the actual > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â problem is; pushing to git should be a basic feature > Â Â Â Â Â Â of a translation > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â system and I'm surprised this can't be made to work > Â Â Â Â Â Â out of the box. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â - When everything works (and please test it well, > Â Â Â Â Â Â Pootle likes to crash > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â and burn under load), we can change the DNS to point > Â Â Â Â Â Â the CNAME > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â <a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> to > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â newpootle. Follow the Service/nameserver > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â documentation page to do this, or I can do it in 2 > Â Â Â Â Â Â minutes. > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â -- > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â _ // Bernie Innocenti > Â Â Â Â Â Â > Â Â Â \X/ Â <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > Â Â Â Â Â Â > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â -- > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _ // Bernie Innocenti > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \X/ Â <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > -- Â _ // Bernie Innocenti Â \X/ Â <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>