<div dir="ltr">Even Chrome developers have bad judgement on occasion :P (Actually the issue is that :) is too vague for the range of issues that can impact the system. It sufficiently precise for the Chrome application).<div> <br></div><div>-walter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Bernie Innocenti <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bernie@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bernie@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Look, even Chrome copied our design to show users that they're opening too many tabs! :-)<br> <br> <a href="http://imgur.com/Ep6VhC0" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/Ep6VhC0</a><div class=""><br> <br> <br> On 05/23/14 09:50, Walter Bender wrote:<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Sebastian Silva<br></div><div class=""> <<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.<u></u>org</a>>> wrote:<br> <br> Thans for the archeology Bernie!<br> <br> I agree that perhaps happy/sad isn't the proper metaphor. I remember<br> having a similar WindowMaker dockapp, that would show the face from<br> Doom's guy for the same purpose. Not very informative, but fun.<br> <br> Now, about this implementation, as i remember, once the palette is<br> open, proper cpu/mem graphs appear. Perhaps we can come up with a<br> less emotionally loaded metaphor.<br> <br> I would disagree that user's shouldn't need to know this data, in<br> fact with such a constrained machine as XO it is pretty useful<br> feedback and as I remember it was part of the original Sugar design<br> (it was not in the frame, but in the home view's relative area of<br> use for each active icon).<br> <br> <br> The original Sugar design used a different approach (a circle of<br> activities filling up in the center of the home screen). My objection to<br> the Smiley implementation was not that users shouldn't need to know<br> these data. Rather, not enough information was available and it was<br> over-simplifying something complex, masking the inherent complexity.<br> <br> <br> Regards,<br> Sebastian<br> <br> El vie, 23 de may 2014 a las 6:08 AM, Walter Bender<br></div> <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>> escribió:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""> +1 to something like conky, which is real information instead of<br> pretending to give the kids information. if you want smiley faces,<br> they should have real data behind them.<br> <br> regards.<br> <br> -walter<br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Iain Brown Douglas<br></div> <<a href="mailto:iain@browndouglas.plus.com" target="_blank">iain@browndouglas.plus.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:iain@browndouglas.plus.com" target="_blank">iain@browndouglas.<u></u>plus.com</a>>><div> <div class="h5"><br> wrote:<br> <br> On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 22:34 -0005, Sebastian Silva wrote:<br> > Hi,<br> > I remember Sugar as deployed in Dextrose 1 had a signature<br> happy/sad<br> > laptop icon and both memory / cpu load indicators.<br> ><br> ><br> > I am dogfooding Sugar again on a memory constrained laptop<br> and am in<br> > need of a memory monitor, and this would be lovely.<br> ><br> ><br> > Is that code alive? Maybe it was a good idea to have by default.<br> ><br> I remember testing that on a low resource machine and the<br> avatar lagged<br> the events, and was not educational.<br> <br> I felt that the ability to embed a couple of elements from<br> conky [1] in<br> the frame would be superior. I have found conky to be<br> understood by very<br> young testers.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Iain<br> <br> [1] <a href="http://conky.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://conky.sourceforge.net/</a><br> ><br> > Regards,<br> > Sebastian<br> > ______________________________<u></u>_________________<br> > Sugar-devel mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.<u></u>org</a><br></div></div> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a>><div class=""><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> <br> <br> ______________________________<u></u>_________________<br> Sugar-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.<u></u>org</a><br></div> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a>><div class=""><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> --<br> Walter Bender<br> Sugar Labs<br> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br> </div></blockquote><div class=""> <br> <br> <br> <br> --<br> Walter Bender<br> Sugar Labs<br> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br> </div></blockquote> <br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> <br> -- <br> Bernie Innocenti<br> Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team<br> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<u></u>Infrastructure_Team</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Walter Bender<br>Sugar Labs<br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br> </div>