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On 13th of March 2014 15:06, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:44 AM,
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Aloha Everybody<br>
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Why don't you ask the creators of the Sugarfox project?<br>
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<div>Because I can't find anything about that on internet?</div>
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Yes, you are right. There is not much publicated under [1], because
it is self-explanatory: If Sugar Web runs on Firefox, then Sugar Web
runs on FirefoxOS, and basically it should be possible to use
everything that runs on Firefox with Sugar Web as well.<br>
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But I went back to my own Boot to WebKit stack in relation with
Sugarfox, because the fee for developers was too high besides some
other issues.<br>
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FirefoxOS is an Android with Firefox as desktop, simply
said. Even the development environment is based on
Firefox. So what works on Firefox should directly work
on FirefoxOS as well.<br>
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This leads us to Node.js. Personally, I do not like
Node.js, because it "internally uses the V8 JavaScript
engine to execute code" and "V8 was developed for the
Chrome web browser" for example, which was also the
reason why I became desinterested in Open webOS. Maybe
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<div>I am not a expert on the platform. (Really, I should
say, I am deeply ignorant about that)</div>
<div>What I like is the development environment, and the
possibility of use already developed resources</div>
<div>to do the "standard" tasks, take photos, save and play
music, browse the web. </div>
<div>We spent a lot of resources to implement that
activities, and is not our core mission.</div>
<div>Also, FirefoxOS is pointed to cheap devices for the
third world, the target of Sugar too.</div>
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Ok, I understand, but let me give you and the other members of this
mailing-list the information that in this case the fight of the
platforms takes place on the level of the web browsers and not on
the level of the hardware and the underlying operating systems
anymore. For example, every larger manufacturer of mobile devices
has announced such cheap devices several months ago and virtually
are running or will run Android. So this is the reason why I guess
that it will end up with Android and Chrome on Nexus tablet
computers and Chromebook netbooks.<br>
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Christian<br>
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[1] Sugarfox <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#sugarfox">www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#sugarfox</a><br>
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On the 13th of May 2014 13:39, Daniel Narvaez
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have not been following too closely but there
seem to be a bit of a push to get it to fully
work also on stock linux (rather than on the
android derivative they use on phones), which
would be useful for us.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">A few days ago, I saw a
FirefoxOS cellphone.
<div>I wonder if we can run Sugar web on
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<div>Yes it's basically node.js
+ chrome + some custom bits to
integrate the two. It would be
perfect to write an OS fully
in js (dream or nightmare?
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12 May 2014 16:33, Gonzalo
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node.js too, right?
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11:26 AM, Daniel
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<div>Hi,<br>
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github
recently open
sourced the
shell they
used to build
the atom
editor<br>
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It sounds like
it would be a
pretty cool
base for a
future html5
only sugar. Or
event just
mostly-html5,
it seems like
this could be
easily
integrated
with python
stuff.<br>
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Also it could
be a good
wrapper for
web activities
on GNOME/OS
X/Windows.<span><font
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