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Samuel:<br>
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Im sorry to say, but I wished nothing in this respect, like
discussing legal issues with somebody or reaching an agreement with
Sugar Labs, because the Sugar learning software is licensed under
the GPL.<br>
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I only sent an e-mail to this mailing list, because Daniel Narvaez
started this thread mentioning a combination of Sugar and Boot to
Gecko (B2G; officially called Firefox OS; Gecko is the web browser
rendering engine of Firefox) of the Mozilla foundation, which
exactly is Sugarfox, and because I think that if somebody starts a
private, public or commercial project, product or service related
with Sugar, then it would be nice if she/he informs the related
groups of Sugar on their mailing lists.<br>
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In relation with the legal issues, it was Lionel at first and then
others, who said something about trademarks, while I said directly
in my second e-mail that it is irrelevant here.<br>
But despite of this, I think that legal issues are important to know
as well for developers volunteering in open source software projects
that go beyond questions related with open source software licenses.
So I simply wanted to be polite and have answered the questions.<br>
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Have fun<br>
Christian Stroetmann<br>
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This is an email mailing list primarily made of volunteers.
To the best of my knowledge no one involved with this email
thread so far (including me) is authorized to act on their own
on behalf of Sugar Labs or OLPC.<br>
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Likewise, no individual you are speaking with likely can legally
bind either Sugar Labs or OLPC to an agreement.<br>
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If you wish to discussion trademarks or the rights to
features, I recommend contacting either of their legal
counsels or registered agents directly.<br>
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<div>I would further recommend that everyone hold off on saying
anything else on this email thread. This is something for the
lawyers to handle, and none of us are legal counsel.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:30 AM,
Christian Stroetmann <span dir="ltr"><<a
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james wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55:36AM +0100,
Christian Stroetmann wrote:<br>
> > For sure, there is the One Tablet Per
Child (OTPC) respectively One<br>
> > Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my
business division intellitablet<br>
> > since July 2012 (see [1]).<br>
> > You are contracted by OLPC? So, please
could you take a look and<br>
> > tell me when the OLPC announced their
tablet computer.<br>
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> No, I do not have access to those records.<br>
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> Relying only on public record, <a
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href="http://blog.laptop.org/" target="_blank">http://blog.laptop.org/</a>
the multi-child<br>
> XO Tablet manufactured by Vivitar and OLPC was
announced as available<br>
> for retail sale at Walmart.com on July 16
2013. There was an<br>
> announcement before that on January 9 2013
associated with CES.<br>
><br>
> I don't see how this is relevant to
sugar-devel@ mailing list.<br>
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> > [1] intelliTablet Announcement One
Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One<br>
> > Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #1<br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012"
target="_blank">www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012</a><br>
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from the pictures at that link, it seems to be related
to the XO-3,<br>
which, while under developmentd for a very long time,
was never<br>
released, nor produced in more than prototype
quantities. and, it was a<br>
very different beast than the "XO Tablet" produced by
vivitar. (i<br>
know that james knows this -- i'm just clarifying for
others.)<br>
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paul<br>
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href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org" target="_blank">pgf@laptop.org</a><br>
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Thank you for your clarification.<br>
Indeed, the One Tablet Per Child project was started by
intelliTablet, because the XO-3 never came to market.<br>
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But form my point of view the chronology has some more facts
to list:<br>
1. The OLPC developed the concept and a design study of the
XO-2 in 2008.<br>
2. I showed a picture of the XO-1Beta of the year 2005 on
one of my websites [1]. Because I thought the XO-1 is
already a convertible laptop respectively tablet laptop (see
also [2]) that features a touchscreen, due to the reason
that I confused touch pad with touchscreen, I described the
XO-1 as "Tablet Computer Convertible One Laptop per Child
(OLPC) XO-1" (move the mouse on the image to see the
description).<br>
3. The OLPC developed the concept and prototypes of the XO-3
and presented it on the CES in January 2012 for example.<br>
4. Because the OLPC presented the XO-2 and the XO-3, but no
direct successor of the XO-1, my business division
intelliTablet came back to my concept of the convertible
tablet computer variant of the XO-1 (see again point 2.) and
presented it on the 17th of July 2012 and 19th of July 2012
([3] and [4]). The device should be an integration of the
XO-1 and the XO-3, or said in other words, an XO-1 with a
(multi-)touchscreen.<br>
5. 8 days later the OLPC presented the XO-4 Touch in a press
release.<br>
6. Wikipedia describes the XO-4 in the following way [5]:
"The XO 4 is a refresh of the XO 1 to 1.75 with a later ARM
CPU and an optional touch screen."<br>
7. Due to these points, I claimed in my first e-mail to this
thread that "The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very
well known by the OLPC headquarter as the XO-1 with
touchscreen is."<br>
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Maybe, some details are not correct.<br>
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Have fun<br>
Christian Stroetmann<br>
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[1] Original vs. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://Inspirationwww.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2010/january.htm#07.January.2010"
target="_blank">Inspirationwww.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2010/january.htm#07.January.2010</a><br>
[2] Wikipedia Laptop, subsection Convertible laptop <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible_laptop#Convertible_laptop"
target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible_laptop#Convertible_laptop</a><br>
[3] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC)
and One Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #1 <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012"
target="_blank">www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012</a><br>
[4] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC)
and One Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #2 <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#19.July.2012"
target="_blank">www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#19.July.2012</a><br>
[5] Wikipedia OLPC XO-1, XO 4 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO_laptop"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO_laptop</a>
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