<div dir="ltr">On 21 January 2014 03:15, Frederick Grose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Where are you testing this? In Fedora 20, the list of devices seems to be available even if wireless is disabled</p><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><code>[dnarvaez@vaio src]$ nmcli r
WIFI-HW WIFI WWAN-HW WWAN
enabled disabled enabled enabled
[dnarvaez@vaio src]$ nmcli d
DEVICE TYPE STATE
wlp1s0 wifi unavailable
lo loopback unmanaged
</code></pre><p style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I have not tested with the dbus service directly, but I'd expect nmcli to ultimately be using the dbus service to get this info.</p></blockquote><div style="font-size:small;font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">
On the XO-1 with OLPC 13.2.0 and NetworkManager 0.9.8.1-3.git20130514.fc18 :</div><div style="font-size:small;font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div><div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">-bash-4.2# nmcli nm</font></div>
<div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">RUNNING STATE WIFI-HARDWARE WIFI WWAN-HARDWARE WWAN </font></div><div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">running connected enabled enabled enabled disabled </font></div>
<div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">-bash-4.2# nmcli d</font></div><div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">DEVICE TYPE STATE </font></div><div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">msh0 802-11-olpc-mesh disconnected </font></div>
<div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace">eth0 802-11-wireless connected </font></div></div><div><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace"><br></font></div><div><div style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">
<font size="1">-bash-4.2# nmcli nm wifi off</font></div><div style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><font size="1">RUNNING STATE WIFI-HARDWARE WIFI WWAN-HARDWARE WWAN </font></div>
<div style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><font size="1">running disconnected enabled disabled enabled disabled </font></div><div style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">
<font size="1">-bash-4.2# nmcli d</font></div><div style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><font size="1">DEVICE TYPE STATE <br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>By the way, if I'm understanding things correctly, this issue is independent from the "Discard network history" one and might benefit from being handled separately.<br><br></div><div>Given that the XO wouldn't use this feature (it has an internal wireless device) it seems like it should be implemented using the NetworkManager interfaces and somehow disabled on the XO, or, assuming the issue with devices not being listed with radio off is not driver related, more generically on old NetworkManager versions.<br>
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