<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div>> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:10:36 +1100 > From: quozl@laptop.org > To: holt@unleashkids.org > CC: alanjas@hotmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; unleashkids@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:03:55AM -0500, Adam Holt wrote: > > With Alan Aguiar's great breakthrough, we've confirmed TurtleBots > > works with the ProtoSnap Pro Mini as-is, plug-n-play. TurtleBots > > can also co-exist with the regular version of Turtle Blocks, unlike > > the previous hacked version of Turtle Art. > > Good to hear. > > It would be better if Turtle Blocks could include the Arduino plugin > always. Something for Walter to consider. I'll CC sugar-devel@ to > engage him.</div><div> </div><div>We decided mantain TurtleBlocks very simple and the system of plugins</div><div>allows add any in a easy way. In the wiki there are all the plugins each</div><div>one in a .tar.gz. You download it, and go to "load plugin" in turtle and the</div><div>plugin is installed automatically and it's ready to work! Is not necessary</div><div>restart the TurtleBlocks.</div><div> </div><div>Since version 19 of TurtleBots we include Arduino plugin and we continue</div><div>including it in all future TurtleBots.</div><div>The same with: Lego WeDo, Lego NxT, FollowMe, etc.</div><div> </div><div> > > > How to reorganize the wiki page, given much of that info's now quite > > unnecessary for teachers? > > It is only unnecessary if the ProtoSnap is provided with > StandardFirmata already uploaded. The SparkFun product you linked on > the page does not have this. You need to clear that up. The > ambiguity will cause trouble for readers. > > Meanwhile, I have moved the StandardFirmata uploading to a subpage, so > now you will find the page more appropriate for teachers who are given > an already uploaded ProtoSnap. You will see that the instructions are > much shorter. > > > Perhaps a new section for the ProtoSnap Pro Mini in the massive > > Turtle Blocks HOW-TO page[1]? > > The Turtle Blocks page on the Sugar Wiki is way too big to add a > ProtoSnap - Pro Mini specific section. But really, the ProtoSnap - > Pro Mini is just one of many Arduino boards that will work with Turtle > Blocks. I see no reason to call it out in particular. > > > I would ask who on this list can install Alan's next build of > > TurtleBots-(23) and help produce the priceless global documentation > > or screenshots educators need for their ProtoSnap and TurtleBots: > > > > - How to control the LED > > - How to control the buzzer > > - How to read the light sensor > > - How to read the push button > > Indeed, you could do with some lesson plans. That is something for > the Sugar Labs Wiki, since it will be applicable to all uses of Turtle > Blocks. > > > Basic steps for each of the above and a fun exercise such as 1) > > TurtleBots blocks to make the buzzer play a tune[2] or 2) have the > > light sensor trigger changes in pen-down drawing or sounds in > > TurtleBots. > > > > Do any modifications to the blocks themselves need to be made to > > better operate the Pro Mini, such as blocks with commands to send > > sound signals? > > No idea. > > > Thanks to true volunteer experts who've brought us this far; we are > > incredibly close to bringing this tactile open learning gem into the > > hands of teachers across all continents! > > I don't think you should hesitate to bring it to teachers now and use > the experience to tune the install guide and lesson plans. Close the > feedback loop. > > > Adam in Malaysia with 5 other brand new ProtoSnap tinkerers. > > > > [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art > > [2] Speaker example code - play musical tones (ProtoSnap) > > http://lilypadarduino.org/?page_id=716 > > from > > http://lilypadarduino.org/?page_id=550 > > > > -- > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Mike Lee <curiouslee@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Alan, > > > > I just downloaded your beta and replaced version 22 with it. I repeated all > > the previously successful steps. Everything worked the same and I got the > > expected blinking LED. > > > > I will be happy to keep the cable and board with the XO and test your next > > builds until you have a final version 23. But also there are many people > > (12 or more) who have Adam's boards. Maybe they can confirm as well. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn < > > alanjas@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Good! :-) > > Can you test the latest version with new PyFirmata? > > I attach a "beta" TurtleBots 23 that I just compile. Is not > > the "final" version 23. > > This version is builded with TurtleBlocks 193+. > > > > Regards! > > > > Alan > > > > md5 TurtleBots-23.xo: 5014f44e18331bba0869890a72553986 > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:36:33 -0500 > > > > Subject: Re: [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin > > From: curiouslee@gmail.com > > To: alanjas@gmail.com > > CC: unleashkids@googlegroups.com > > > > > > Alan, > > > > I just downloaded and installed Turtlebots-22 on a fresh install of > > Sugar 0.100 on XO-4 Touch HS B1. I plugged in a Sparkfun Protosnap Pro > > Mini board which has Standard Firmata installed with the Arduino IDE on > > a PC. I started Turtlebots and ran the script that Ian Daniher gave me > > to blink the LED and it worked fine. It's great to finally see a Sugar > > activity that will work with the Unleash Kids version of the board with > > no special configuration. I also own an NXT kit and WeDo, and will now > > try those out when I get a chance. > > > > > > Photo > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/10913305974/ > > > > > > Video > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/10913484183/ > > > > > > I am no longer directly involved with Unleash Kids, but I know Adam has > > as many as 100 of these boards on which Sparkfun has pre-installed > > Standard Firmata. You could order this board from Sparkfun and install > > firmata yourself, but Adam got his boards at a discount (purchasing > > with his own funds). I know he would also like the community to use of > > them and additionally help document how to work with the other > > components on the board such as the buzzer, light sensor and push > > button. Brian Huang at Sparkfun has told me he has built an > > XO-compatible tethered robot based on the Pro Mini board, H-bridge chip > > and Magician chassis, but I have not had a chance to try his code. He > > was favoring the use of Ardublock in Gnome. > > > > > > You might contact Adam at holt [at] unleashkids [dot] org to work > > something out if you want one of his boards. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Alan Aguiar <alanjas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I was seeing this wiki entry: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ > > ProtoSnap_Contributors_Guide > > And see that it uses Arduino plugin. I'm mantaining this plugin for > > TurtleBlocks (AKA TurtleArt) > > and the version showed have a little bugs (for example, the read > > analog and digital blocks > > not returns the read value). > > With a friend, we update the PyFirmate in the plugin to latest > > 0.9.5. > > Can you check on this GIT: > > http://git.sugarlabs.org/arduino > > > > About installation: the process described is correct but have their > > problems, for > > example: git is not installed by default on XO. And in some places > > like Uruguay, > > you don't have root access to install anything. > > Other option is use the option "Load plugin" of TurtleBlocks that > > install automatically > > the plugin selected (only you need download a .tar.gz into the > > Sugar Journal and > > press Load Plugin and it was installed). > > > > But that are a bit complicated... To solve that, we package the > > Arduino plugin > > (and others like Lego NxT, Lego WeDo, etc) > > with TurtleBlocks in a new activity called TurtleBots: > > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4434 > > > > I'm not have a board to test, someone can test it??? > > > > Regards! > > > > Alan > > > > -- > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Unleash Kids" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email > > to unleashkids+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel </div> </div></body> </html>