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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/2013 8:49 AM, Daniel Narvaez
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cite="mid:CANTHhvY-hW0QY0A4bxNNmf5zLmZDWp9--JUPknLp3pF_nmyEnw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Do we really need a single installer? I mean I see it
      would be ideal but it feels like it might be tricky licensing,
      implementation and maintenance wise.
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      <div>From what I understand from Thomas, after installing
        VirtualBox, it's just downloading and clicking on an icon (I
        should really try it but I'm on a bad connection these days). It
        might not be perfect but it doesn't really sound bad, what is
        stopping us marketing Sugar this way really?<br>
        <br>
        On Friday, 8 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Not only doable, has been done for some time
            now [1,2] and is multi-platform (& what I use to demo
            Sugar on a Mac)
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            <div>The Oracle PUEL license [3] very interestingly permits
              free redistribution for educational purposes, opening the
              possibility of a single installer, ideal for our needs.</div>
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            <div>In the past I have suggested approaching Oracle for a
              marketing partnership under a CSR (corporate social
              responsibility) banner.</div>
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            <div>Sean</div>
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            <div>1. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox"
                target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox</a></div>
            <div>2. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox"
                target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox</a></div>
            <div>2. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL"
                target="_blank">https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL</a></div>
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    Here are some wiki pages and some older links from collaboration on
    sugar with cyberorg (india) on #opensuse-edu on freenode IRC:<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#OpenSuse-Sugar">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#OpenSuse-Sugar</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/</a><br>
     
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/iso/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/iso/</a><br>
    To write a USB:<br>
 download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/sugar.i686-0.3.0-Build7.5.raw.xz<br>
    Hosted Here: (used to have a sugar vmx hosted here' since removed) <br>
           We should consider placing some of the VirtualBox exports on
    sourceforge.net:<br>
     <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensuse-edu/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensuse-edu/</a><br>
    <br>
    Recent e-mail:<br>
    Re: [opensuse-edu] Final spurt: openSUSE Education for 13.1<br>
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      <pre wrap="">On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:10:25 -0700 satellit <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellitgo@gmail.com"><satellitgo@gmail.com></a>
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            <pre wrap="">I hope a new sugar-desktop will become available.  I see that
latest in

build system was for : sugar 0.96.3:
   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#Sugar_12.1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#Sugar_12.1</a>
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      <pre wrap="">ok: I hopefully brought most of the packages to the current/stable
version (not 0.99x, but, hey: 0.98).

But now I need to ask the maintainers about the final setup, the
publishing (some packages have explicitely set "no publishing") and
some special packages.

For the first "problem", I guess someone just needs to go throught the
packages and check their (publish/build) settings, so that we get a
final release once everything built as expected.

...but I'm unsure about SDL (upgrade) and the olpcsound package
(upgrate from 5.10 to 6.01). Any preferences? Any ideas?

With kind regards,
Lars (Vogdt)
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    Tom Gilliard<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:25 PM,
              Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
                  'gonzalo@laptop.org');" target="_blank">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">At least the virtualbox looks doable and
                  a good way to show Sugar.
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                  <div>Gonzalo</div>
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                      <div>On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Daniel
                        Narvaez <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
                            'dwnarvaez@gmail.com');" target="_blank">dwnarvaez@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                        <div>On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY
                          wrote:
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                              <div>The larger problem is the absence of
                                a marketing strategy, we need to know
                                where we are going to communicate
                                effectively. In particular, we need to
                                choose and implement how to offer Sugar
                                tryout to teachers and journalists.</div>
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                          <div>I can think of a couple of approaches</div>
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                          <div>* Get Sugar running well on the
                            CuBox-i. Find budget to buy a few of those
                            to distribute to chosen journalist and
                            teachers. Try to partner with SolidRun to
                            offer Sugar as an out-of-the-box
                            installation option.<br>
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                          <div>* Make it easy to run Sugar inside
                            VirtualBox on Windows and OS X. Without
                            having investigated too deeply it seems that
                            a two step process would be both
                            realistically implementable and easy enough
                            for the user</div>
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                          <div>1 Install virtualbox</div>
                          <div>2 Install a Sugar application (which
                            would take care of setting up the
                            appliance).</div>
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                          </div>
                          <div>Thoughts? Other ideas? If we can agree on
                            one or two concrete, realistic approaches, I
                            think we can at least attempt to get them
                            done for 3.102.</div>
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                              Daniel Narvaez<br>
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