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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/2013 8:49 AM, Daniel Narvaez
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type="cite">Do we really need a single installer? I mean I see it
would be ideal but it feels like it might be tricky licensing,
implementation and maintenance wise.
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<div>From what I understand from Thomas, after installing
VirtualBox, it's just downloading and clicking on an icon (I
should really try it but I'm on a bad connection these days). It
might not be perfect but it doesn't really sound bad, what is
stopping us marketing Sugar this way really?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Not only doable, has been done for some time
now [1,2] and is multi-platform (& what I use to demo
Sugar on a Mac)
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<div>The Oracle PUEL license [3] very interestingly permits
free redistribution for educational purposes, opening the
possibility of a single installer, ideal for our needs.</div>
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<div>In the past I have suggested approaching Oracle for a
marketing partnership under a CSR (corporate social
responsibility) banner.</div>
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<div>Sean</div>
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<div>1. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox</a></div>
<div>2. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox"
target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox</a></div>
<div>2. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL"
target="_blank">https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL</a></div>
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Here are some wiki pages and some older links from collaboration on
sugar with cyberorg (india) on #opensuse-edu on freenode IRC:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#OpenSuse-Sugar">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#OpenSuse-Sugar</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/iso/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/iso/</a><br>
To write a USB:<br>
download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dramwang/images/sugar.i686-0.3.0-Build7.5.raw.xz<br>
Hosted Here: (used to have a sugar vmx hosted here' since removed) <br>
We should consider placing some of the VirtualBox exports on
sourceforge.net:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensuse-edu/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensuse-edu/</a><br>
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Recent e-mail:<br>
Re: [opensuse-edu] Final spurt: openSUSE Education for 13.1<br>
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<pre wrap="">I hope a new sugar-desktop will become available. I see that
latest in
build system was for : sugar 0.96.3:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#Sugar_12.1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#Sugar_12.1</a>
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<pre wrap="">ok: I hopefully brought most of the packages to the current/stable
version (not 0.99x, but, hey: 0.98).
But now I need to ask the maintainers about the final setup, the
publishing (some packages have explicitely set "no publishing") and
some special packages.
For the first "problem", I guess someone just needs to go throught the
packages and check their (publish/build) settings, so that we get a
final release once everything built as expected.
...but I'm unsure about SDL (upgrade) and the olpcsound package
(upgrate from 5.10 to 6.01). Any preferences? Any ideas?
With kind regards,
Lars (Vogdt)
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Tom Gilliard<br>
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Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">At least the virtualbox looks doable and
a good way to show Sugar.
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<div>Gonzalo</div>
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<div>On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Daniel
Narvaez <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>The larger problem is the absence of
a marketing strategy, we need to know
where we are going to communicate
effectively. In particular, we need to
choose and implement how to offer Sugar
tryout to teachers and journalists.</div>
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<div>I can think of a couple of approaches</div>
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<div>* Get Sugar running well on the
CuBox-i. Find budget to buy a few of those
to distribute to chosen journalist and
teachers. Try to partner with SolidRun to
offer Sugar as an out-of-the-box
installation option.<br>
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<div>* Make it easy to run Sugar inside
VirtualBox on Windows and OS X. Without
having investigated too deeply it seems that
a two step process would be both
realistically implementable and easy enough
for the user</div>
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<div>1 Install virtualbox</div>
<div>2 Install a Sugar application (which
would take care of setting up the
appliance).</div>
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<div>Thoughts? Other ideas? If we can agree on
one or two concrete, realistic approaches, I
think we can at least attempt to get them
done for 3.102.</div>
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