<div dir="ltr">Yes Gonzalo, from a marketing standpoint 0.102 is as unworkable as 0.82 was and all the numbers in between. However I'm afraid v1.0 will be a mistake.<div><br></div><div>I'm mystified, why would you think I don't see anything good in Sugar?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sean</div><div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" target="_blank">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ok, I am not a marketing guy.<br>
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May be you are right and v2 is better than v1,<br>
but I am sure any of these is better than 0.102<br>
<br>
I think we can't claim a Tablet version of Sugar, but we have a lot to show.<br>
I hope you agree on that. If our marketing guys don't see anything<br>
good in Sugar,<br>
we have a problem.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Gonzalo<br>
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Sean DALY <<a href="mailto:sdaly.be@gmail.com">sdaly.be@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press<br>
> release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the<br>
> list.<br>
><br>
> As I've explained previously, the major issue with a v1 seven years after<br>
> entering production is that it is incomprehensible. Non-techies (i.e.<br>
> teachers) discovering Sugar will naturally assume there are 0 years of<br>
> production behind it. Tech journalists will roll on the floor laughing at a<br>
> Slashdot post e.g. "Seven Years After OLPC's First Laptop, Sugar Reaches<br>
> V1".<br>
><br>
> We dealt with this problem when Sugar was numbered Sugar on a Stick v6 was<br>
> renamed "Sugar on a Stick v1 Strawberry" and the press responded to an<br>
> easy-to-understand story - that SL had spun off from OLPC and had a first<br>
> non-OLPC version available. That the technical version number of the<br>
> underlying Sugar was different was made irrelevant.<br>
><br>
> We need to do this again. The addition of browser support is a big deal. In<br>
> my view Sugar should be publicly numbered v2, perhaps with a name i.e.<br>
> "Sugar v2 Online" or "Sugar v2 Tablet" (or something - this needs marketing<br>
> work), with a clear story: Sugar opens up a new direction after seven years<br>
> of production.<br>
><br>
> The existing technical version numbering system has the merit of being<br>
> understandable to developers and the deployments community and could be<br>
> associated internally with the public number, i.e. 2.102, 2.104 etc., which<br>
> would not box us into a numbering system we can't market. Or perhaps become<br>
> irrelevant as Daniel N has suggested if we go to continuous development<br>
> mode.<br>
><br>
> I have more grey hair than I did when I first proposed we go to v1 six years<br>
> ago [1]...<br>
><br>
> (!)<br>
><br>
> So I think we are ready for v2.<br>
><br>
> Sean.<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2008-November/000425.html" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2008-November/000425.html</a><br>
><br>
><br>
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> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We already have this discussion for Sugar 0.100,<br>
>> why not do it again? :)<br>
>><br>
>> With more than 7 years of development and more than 2 million of users,<br>
>> probably we should accept a 1.0 version is deserved.<br>
>><br>
>> With 6 months more, probably the web api will be more established,<br>
>> and we are not doing incompatible changes to the python api.<br>
>><br>
>> Anybody have a Really Good Motive(r) to not do it?<br>
>><br>
>> Gonzalo<br>
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