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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 06/11/13 10:00, Daniel Narvaez
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<div dir="ltr">On 6 November 2013 07:15, Sebastian Silva <span
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feel the overall attitude within this list has been
dismissive of<br>
non-conforming ideas and individuals, sometimes bluntly.
The spanish<br>
speakers, from Xavi who did so much translation, to Homunq
who<br>
started (and abandoned) Develop Activity, to Yama whose
ideals always<br>
seemed to clash with reality, I miss them. I myself have
been often<br>
frustrated, having retreated biting my tongue more than
once.<br>
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It makes me think of the eastern spiritual ideal of
speaking only when<br>
necessary, and then only the truth, and then only with
sweet words.<br>
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Probably we have all broken that ideal here, and it is not
clear how to<br>
facilitate constructive non-conformism.<br>
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<div>I can think of at least a couple of cases where the
list could have been more welcoming to non-comforming
contributors.<br>
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That said I hope this thread doesn't discourage people to
get involved. Everything can be improved but Sugar is
perhaps the most welcoming free software community I know
of... For good or for bad, "sweet words" aren't really
what you are normally met by if your ideas or patches are
not considered high quality enough by the existing
community.<br>
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I realize I chose my wording poorly. I did not mean "this list" but
"this community".<br>
You have to realize that Sugar community is explicitly more than
just a Free Software community.<br>
It's Supposed to be an Education Project, it's an ideal, it's more
than just development, it's a diverse<br>
community of people who believe in the value of collaboration and
freedom as ways to impact<br>
learning and therefore to change the world.<br>
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Therefore we should excersize care in making this a welcoming
environment not just for developers,<br>
but for any kind of contributors. It may be painstakingly slow, but
I see the advent of freedom culture<br>
within the educational systems and therefore governments as an
unstoppable force, and Sugar as<br>
a big part of that.<br>
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By the way, you always manage to respond constructively and
positively. Kudos for that.<br>
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Regards,<br>
--<br>
Sebastian<br>
@icarito<br>
R+D SomosAzucar.Org<br>
Sugar Labs Perú<br>
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