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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/29/2013 06:01 AM, Thomas Gilliard
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/29/2013 05:35 AM, Thomas
        Gilliard wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/28/2013 11:03 AM, Gonzalo
          Odiard wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I agree in the need of testing.
            <div>Testing is more difficult this cycle because:</div>
            <div>* We have less developers working.</div>
            <div>* We don't have the images we usually used to test on
              our main hardware platform (XO*) yet.</div>
            <div>I don't know if any test is done now on Fedora 20 Sugar
              spin,</div>
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        Soas F20 Alpha TC1 live x86_64 starts as a gnome desktop with
        only e-toys and a utility group of apps. There is no sugar.<br>
        yum install @sugar-desktop does not install sugar.  This has
        been the case for a while in nightly composes also.<br>
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        TC2 is just out and I am looking at it.<br>
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      Same for f20 Alpha TC2:<br>
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    I just did "yum install lightdm" in {alt} {f2} root console of
    installed F20_Alpha_TC-2-Soas and sugar starts after restart:<br>
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    (I remembered we used lightdm in f19 Soas)<br>
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    Tom Gilliard<br>
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        Tom Gilliard<br>
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            <div>but according to Peter Robinson mail, not too much
              communication from that part.</div>
            <div>From my part, I am building rpms for Australia, to use
              sugar 0.100 on a F18 image.</div>
            <div>We will do testing on that, but not in the web part, at
              least not now, due to missing dependencies.</div>
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            <div>Gonzalo</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM,
              Daniel Narvaez <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                  <div class="im">On 28 August 2013 19:33, Walter Bender
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                          To me the issue is that we have no sense of
                          the urgency of the 250<br>
                          bugs that have not been triaged. Most of the
                          bugs that have been<br>
                          triaged are not urgent and should not hold up
                          the release. (They can<br>
                          be tagged for 102 with little consequence.)
                          But the great unknown is<br>
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                      <div>There are those and there are the N bugs
                        which has not been discovered because people are
                        not testing... We can block rescheduling on
                        completing the triage but can we block on
                        someone doing the testing? This is totally a
                        subjective feeling but my impression is that the
                        worst bugs are unreported.<br>
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                      <div>I was hoping to go towards continuous
                        development gradually after 0.100 but now I sort
                        of feel forced into it because there are too
                        many unknowns to put down a schedule.<br>
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