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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/28/2013 11:03 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
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      <div dir="ltr">I agree in the need of testing.
        <div>Testing is more difficult this cycle because:</div>
        <div>* We have less developers working.</div>
        <div>* We don't have the images we usually used to test on our
          main hardware platform (XO*) yet.</div>
        <div>I don't know if any test is done now on Fedora 20 Sugar
          spin,</div>
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    Soas F20 Alpha TC1 live x86_64 starts as a gnome desktop with only
    e-toys and a utility group of apps. There is no sugar.<br>
    yum install @sugar-desktop does not install sugar.  This has been
    the case for a while in nightly composes also.<br>
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    TC2 is just out and I am looking at it.<br>
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    Tom Gilliard<br>
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        <div>but according to Peter Robinson mail, not too much
          communication from that part.</div>
        <div>From my part, I am building rpms for Australia, to use
          sugar 0.100 on a F18 image.</div>
        <div>We will do testing on that, but not in the web part, at
          least not now, due to missing dependencies.</div>
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        <div>Gonzalo</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Daniel
          Narvaez <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div class="im">On 28 August 2013 19:33, Walter Bender <span
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                      To me the issue is that we have no sense of the
                      urgency of the 250<br>
                      bugs that have not been triaged. Most of the bugs
                      that have been<br>
                      triaged are not urgent and should not hold up the
                      release. (They can<br>
                      be tagged for 102 with little consequence.) But
                      the great unknown is<br>
                      what scares me.</blockquote>
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                  <div>There are those and there are the N bugs which
                    has not been discovered because people are not
                    testing... We can block rescheduling on completing
                    the triage but can we block on someone doing the
                    testing? This is totally a subjective feeling but my
                    impression is that the worst bugs are unreported.<br>
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                  <div>I was hoping to go towards continuous development
                    gradually after 0.100 but now I sort of feel forced
                    into it because there are too many unknowns to put
                    down a schedule.<br>
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