Note that the only visible difference in what I'm proposing is that Sugar is shown full screen. The script takes care of creating another X session, nothing you need to remember :)<div><br></div><div>I guess the question is... Would it be a big problem for you if there was no option to run Sugar in a window and we would always run it fullscreen?<span></span><br>
<br>On Wednesday, 26 June 2013, James Simmons wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I do use Sugar running in a window when I develop Activities. Granted it doesn't work that well, and some kinds of keystrokes don't make it into the window, but I find that it is a convenient way to test my Activities. I understand that you can have more than one X session going on a Linux box and maybe that is an alternative but I can never remember how to do it. So I'd prefer to keep it as an option even if there are known problems.<div>
<br></div><div>James Simmons</div></div><div><br><br><div>On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a>gonzalo@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I use the option too.<div>For me should be better keep it, just document where does not work.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>Gonzalo </div></font></span></div><div><div><div><br><br><div>
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Manuel Quiñones <span dir="ltr"><<a>manuq@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">As Walter said. For me it is nice to have the window option, and I use it. But if it is a pain to maintain and takes time from you Daniel, I'm +1 for dropping it.<br><div><div><div>
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2013/6/25 Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a>walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>From the POV of developers, the only advantage I see for seeing a<br>
window size is to test how Sugar/Activities run at different screen<br>
sizes. But much of this can be accomplished by setting the resolution<br>
of the full-screen X display, so I would argue it is not a priority.<br>
<br>
regards.<br>
<br>
-walter<br>
<div><div><br>
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Daniel Narvaez <<a>dwnarvaez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> with sugar-emulator we used to run by default in a window. These days<br>
> sugar-runner defaults to full screen but it's still possible to make it use<br>
> a window by setting the resolution preference.<br>
><br>
> I would like to understand how badly it would affect people if we only<br>
> allowed to run in fullscreen. Are you using the resolution preference? Would<br>
> it be a major problem if it went away?<br>
><br>
> The issue is that at the moment there is no good solution for nesting X<br>
> inside X. Xephyr is buggy and pretty much unmaintained, and it's now<br>
> crashing at startup on unstable Ubuntu. Xvnc might be an alternative but<br>
> last time I tried it was also crashy, it would be a bit complicated to setup<br>
> and it won't allow us to test hardware acceleration if we need that in the<br>
> future.<br>
><br>
> Always running a full X session would probably simplify and make<br>
> sugar-runner more solid. There are challenges with that approach too with<br>
> systemd, but I believe those might be solvable.<br>
><br>
> I'm probably not going to do anything about this until it becomes a problem<br>
> for sugar-build officially supported distros, but I'm thinking about the<br>
> issue and I'm interested in people feedback.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Daniel Narvaez<br>
><br>
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