<div dir="ltr">:)<br><a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/roadmap/issues/7">https://github.com/sugarlabs/roadmap/issues/7</a><br><div>Don't likes this feature. But I will do everything possible to work and be approved by the community!<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/6/20 Daniel Narvaez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dwnarvaez@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwnarvaez@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Yes it was accepted. You can see the list of accepted features here<br><br><a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/roadmap/issues?milestone=1&state=open" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/roadmap/issues?milestone=1&state=open</a><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 June 2013 13:40, Simon Schampijer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon@schampijer.de" target="_blank">simon@schampijer.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On 06/20/2013 01:28 PM, Walter Bender wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I agree that the technical solution we have come up with to a large<br>
extent obviates the need for consensus around whether or not to<br>
implement this feature as it pushes it to the user space in the from<br>
of an activity. (Gonzalo and I have been discussing the fact that<br>
other cpsection widgets could also be moved to activities, but that is<br>
for another day.<br>
<br>
Regarding the specifics of this feature, I have not found any of the<br>
arguments that this feature is somehow going to confuse our users even<br>
remotely convincing. Three observations: (1) any change to the icon is<br>
driven by explicit user action, so no surprises there; (2) in<br>
virtually every other system or service our users encounter, there is<br>
the ability to set a personal avatar, so to argue that this is somehow<br>
going to confuse them in Sugar seems a stretch; and (3) particularly<br>
in light of the new approach, making it easier for our end users to<br>
make modifications to the system is in keeping with our overall<br>
pedagogy -- moving away from requiring root access to make changes is<br>
a good thing and while we don't want our users to inadvertently break<br>
things irreparably, there is something to be said for learning from<br>
the experience of breaking things. Bottom line, I seem to have more<br>
faith in the abilities of our users than perhaps is warranted, but I<br>
think that is aligned with our goals to encourage our users to take<br>
change. (The fact that this feature comes from one of our users says a<br>
lot.)<br>
<br>
Regarding our broken decision-making process, the problem I have is<br>
less that we don't reach consensus than that the discussions are<br>
happening very late in the process. We had, for example, had an email<br>
from our release manager months ago about the features proposed for<br>
this release. That was the time to question whether or not this<br>
feature should be accepted. To wait until now is not fair to the<br>
person, in the case, Ignacio, who has been working hard on his<br>
implementation. It is fine to give technical criticism at this point,<br>
and I think that discussion has been fruitful, but in my opinion, we<br>
really need to be more forthcoming earlier in the process about the<br>
features themselves.<br>
</blockquote>
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Has that feature been accepted for 0.100? I must admit that I do not read all the mails and I might have overseen this one, at least I first saw [1] when the patch was submitted. Has there been a mail to ask for feedback for the design?<br>
<br>
The process tries to make room for that early feedback, especially for Features that changes UI or work flow.<br>
<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Icon_Change" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<u></u>Features/Icon_Change</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Propose_a_feature_for_addition_into_the_release_cycle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<u></u>Features/Policy#Propose_a_<u></u>feature_for_addition_into_the_<u></u>release_cycle</a><br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br>Daniel Narvaez<br>
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