<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Manuel Quiñones <<a href="mailto:manuq@laptop.org" target="_blank">manuq@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">After reading the old thread, I see there was agreement on the problem, but no one discussed the solution / workflow. I think multiple home views can complicate the Sugar interface. Overloading the favorites as proposed complicates things, IMHO. Here are two other options: - A School activity that is a launcher of other activities. It can have collections like "Math", etc. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> - Enhace the search entry: search for tags. Add tags to activities like "math". Provide autocompletion. </blockquote><div> </div><div>Yeah. I think either of these proposals are possible solutions, but at a cost: </div><div>(1) something more for teachers to learn (they already know how to use the homeview) </div><div>(2) something more to maintain </div><div>(3) something more to design/code </div><div>(4) not clear they actually lessen complexity </div><div>-walter </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2013/5/2 Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>>: <div><div class="h5">> As per the enclosed discussion on IRC, I'd like to get some feedback on the > multiple homeview feature request. > > > manuq: I am really happy this feature has landed. I think it is really great > manuq yes!! > manuq I think we should do screencasts to showcase the great stuff that's > been added > walterbender manuq: now that background has landed, I'll work on > multi-homeview. Also an important feature > manuq walterbender: is there a feature page for multi homes? > manuq walterbender: I'm less confident on multi homes.. I would like to > know user cases, feedback from deploys, and a discussion about the workflow > manuq I fear it can complicate sugar too much > walterbender manuq: there is a very important use case: teachers want > control over the desktop in the classroom > walterbender manuq: so the simple solution is one desktop for school and > one for the user > walterbender manuq: this was asked for in Peru and Australia > walterbender manuq: in Peru, because teachers found the varied desktops > confusing, they wouldn't let kids add apps > walterbender in Audtralia, they'd like to set the desktop per lesson > manuq ouch > walterbender manuq: so I think this is actually quite important > manuq one desktop per lesson? uff > walterbender manuq: I spoke with gonzalo_odiard_ about adding a feature > to his share activity to let the teacher set the desktop > walterbender manuq: but all of these things would suggest we want the > kids to have an independent desktop > walterbender hence the feature > manuq that can be resolved with an activity.. a launcher activity with a > collection of activity icons maybe? > gonzalo_odiard_ walterbender, anyway, the multiple desktop feature > deserve more discussion on the ml > walterbender manuq: and yes, there is a feature page kicking around for > this [1] > manuq gonzalo_odiard_: +1 > manuq walterbender: great > walterbender manuq, gonzalo_odiard_ the feature was proposed a long time > ago and implemented 6 months ago. > gonzalo_odiard_ walterbender, i know > manuq walterbender: let's open a thread so everyone can speak > walterbender manuq, gonzalo_odiard_ how do you suggest we get the > discussion going? > walterbender seems there has been ample opportunity > walterbender many emails sent > walterbender but I am happy to open the door yet again > manuq walterbender: sorry I don't remember the discussions > gonzalo_odiard_ walterbender, i looked at the implementation and was not > very good neither > manuq walterbender: so maybe add a new thread with links to the old > discussions > walterbender gonzalo_odiard_: that is a different issue > walterbender manuq: I'll post this discussion, with links to the list and > we can continue the discussion [2] > gonzalo_odiard_ walterbender, but is important too > manuq great > walterbender gonzalo_odiard_: undoubtedly it is important. > manuq at first glance, I think a launcher activity with collections of > activities can be a better solution > manuq so you can have a "math" collection for example > gonzalo_odiard_ manuq, walterbender, right now we have a configuration > for the activities a deployment don't want be deleted by the kids. we can > extend that to have other collections configured. then we can have > activities asociated to math, arts, science.... > gonzalo_odiard_ and we can use that info to populate different desktops > gonzalo_odiard_ (maybe showing different background images?) > walterbender now were really are making things complicated > walterbender I think this direction makes too many assumptions about how > things work in the classroom > walterbender let's keep it simple > manuq an activity that doesn't mess the spiral, for example? > walterbender gonzalo_odiard_: I really think you are over-engineering a > simple request > > [1] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views</a> > [2] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-May/031266.html" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-May/031266.html</a> > > -walter > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> > </div></div>> _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > -- .. manuq .. </blockquote></div> -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> </div></div>