Daniel, Your concerns are valid. All I can say that probably using an "automated" "transparent" proxy client-server setup is the answer, for getting the requirements met without bothering the kids. * The "automatic" mode can be set in the XO-images, via simple "OOB" scripts. * The "automatic" mode puts the responsibility on the network-administrator's shoulders, instead of the kids. * Having the proxy "transparent", means that kids do not need to enter the credentials again and again while navigating a whitelisted network URL. So, even in current scenario, I think the above particular setup can be easily done, thus relieving the kids altogether from doing any configurations. <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Daniel Drake <<a href="mailto:dsd@laptop.org" target="_blank">dsd@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im">On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal <<a href="mailto:anish@activitycentral.org">anish@activitycentral.org</a>> wrote: > I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration</a> </div>I would say that this feature does not fit particularly nicely with some items of our guidelines: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Things_you_should_consider_when_proposing_a_feature" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Things_you_should_consider_when_proposing_a_feature</a> In other words, I can't imagine every 6-12 year old student in a school going into the control panel and typing (without error) a load of proxy details. In my experience things like this are incredibly challenging especially because the users cannot relate to the task at hand (unless you want to teach them about computer networks first). A more sensible model would be that this is somehow automated by the deployer or by the school infrastructure, such that the user is not distracted and does not have to care. I'm aware that such generalizations can't be applied to all cases and that this feature is probably driven by some users where this indeed can't be applied. So I'm not in opposition to this feature (even though it would be nice to have the more automated approach designed as well), but I think we need to consider the implications on our more "regular" target userbase. For example, what happens if a user who is on a proxy-free network types "hello" into the proxy configuration textbox? Does that break all networking? One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the "Radio enable" checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their laptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy configuration could become support headache like this. Daniel <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: <a href="http://activitycentral.com/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">http://activitycentral.com</a>