Hi Gonzalo, I really appreciate your feedback :) I second your view Anish.The scenario is mostly seen in India. C, C++ are the languages that laid foundation for OOPS(C++ to be more specific). My personal experience is that, I started with C as my first programming language when I was in school, then went for C++. It helps to build strong OOPS foundation and thus facilitated me to pick up any new language at pace. Now it helped to pick up Java and Python pretty quickly. So I believe the OOPS concepts are easy to understand in C++ ( maybe because I picked C++ prior to python) which helped me in my further learnings. It would be great if we could provide something that would help children learn in terms of programming languages with lot many examples :D Also, We are planning to have an activity for web development. Through this children will be able to design HTML pages, write JS in that. We can even allow them to build entire webapp(in the long run). The unique part will be easy to use interface where children can select, drag and drop HTML widget on page. We can provide many more features like this. Yes, I would definitely like to look into Develop activity and Pippy :) Feel free to add to it ! Cheers! Kartik Perisetla <div style="text-align:right" class="gmail_quote"><div style="text-align:left">On Aug 7, 2012 9:51 PM, "Anish Mangal" <<a href="mailto:anish@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">anish@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div style="text-align:left" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div style="text-align:left"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 August 2012 01:36 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kartik Kumar <<a href="mailto:kartik.peri@gmail.com" target="_blank">kartik.peri@gmail.com</a> <a href="mailto:kartik.peri@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mailto:kartik.peri@gmail.com></a>> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I was thinking of an Activity for Sugar using which children can write programs in C and C++ and execute them. > > > Why? Why, poor kids?! :) > > Jokes aside, I don't think is a good idea: > * C is more difficult to learn than python. > * In the images there are not gcc and make. > * Compiled c code is dependent of the platform, > and we do not have a good solution to multiplatform binaries in the activities. > > Why you think, learning C can be good for kids? > Not saying that learning C is particularly good (or better than python), it is still the defacto programming language taught at nearly all schools in India atleast (in higher secondary levels) So, while learning C might not be a good idea (when compared with python), it would be better than not learning at all ;-) and the point of free s/w is scratching your itch ;-) > Create a IDE with the simplicity needed by the sugar design is a challenge. > If you want help with a development tool to write python activities, > check <a href="http://git.sugarlabs.org/develop" target="_blank">http://git.sugarlabs.org/develop</a> > +1 or there are plenty of ideas around developing pippy (<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Quozl" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Quozl</a>) as well :-) > Gonzalo > > > > This is similar to Pippy activity but this activity will use GCC for compilation and execution of these programs created by children. > > We can present them with such features: > 1. Use pre-existing code snippets( from Journal) > 2. Write custom code > 3. Compilation and Execution > > Please provide your inputs whether this seems useful with classroom perspective and is worth taking it further? > > > Kartik Perisetla > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org></a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> - -- Anish Mangal Sugar Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/" target="_blank">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</a> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQIUBzAAoJEBoxUdDHDZVpcfAH/2ZgHABl3BxLq5KXCPcBgb/t EOtA9zYe0jUsMUYiuCNokh48fc6sGUP06seCr/ROb2mSJnN+RrOxlQq196tvokWU LHss6uonkHU8MjtPQfdcAvosKWt0cepqOXQza3VrmNd+LsV+2cAkFLFOuZXidRug NggIi3j/DqBgUprZuCTh7YAzp94wKGBzpFDWNm3LPgaaZaROMy2A2lyNXZpeoQit 2ljfOCF4Jj6+xOpmT9ccXaHS3NikBq4aZa16WhvqV0EvaRssZrrFFTo9FIxsUNI3 haXbbGPLxFtUT9MHGU5KFlWcO8cnk/uUMLdaclYHsii5Ha+VTqMbXAS45az+4Sc= =eaLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </div> </div> </blockquote></div>