Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :)<br><br>Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing?<br>The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you.<br>
Why do you think there are a wrong message here?<br><br>Gonzalo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Samuel Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Then it makes more sense to me to say "once you have learned how to su olpc, you can use terminal to hack your user experience" rather than "once you have overcome an obfuscating element in Sugar, you can use terminal-without-any-help to do things you might still not understand".<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Samuel Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com" target="_blank">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Why are we judging that some people are 'not ready' to use terminal? it's not as though we hide the "delete activity" menu option from people, for instance. It seems to me to send the wrong message. <div>
<br></div><div>Better to have a terminal replacement activity that </div><div>a) shows you clearly what user you are logged in as (in the title bar?)</div><div>b) by default launches you into a new user account ("user:sandbox"?) that can easily su to olpc... </div>
<div>c) offers some initial welcome/guidance/help in exploring the command line.<div><br></div><div>SJ<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" target="_blank">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If the user is ready to use the terminal, can go to the list view and select as a favorite, right?<br>Is not hidden, only is not selected as favorite.<br>
<br>Gonzalo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Samuel Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com" target="_blank">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Terminal is currently hidden by default on many builds. How about unhiding it or replacing it with an activity that offers more of an intro to the command line?<div>
It is an important tool for understanding how your computer works.</div>
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