If you use PyGTK and packing boxes to align your controls you should be able to make an application that looks and works well no matter what the language.<br><br><a href="http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/ch-PackingWidgets.html#sec-TheoryOfPackingBoxes">http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/ch-PackingWidgets.html#sec-TheoryOfPackingBoxes</a><br>
<br>James Simmons<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Art Hunkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Chris,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for your observation.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I seriously considered the internationalization
option prior to getting involved in writing Sugar activities.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I found that what I wanted to do was *intensively*
text-based, and that if I wanted control of the look of the text (i.e., text
onscreen formatting), I'd need to carefully control it - often even down to
the precise number of characters.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Screen formatting especially became an issue with
labels and associated text in widgets (e.g., buttons). The width of a widget
would depend, for example, on the number of characters in the label - so how
could I guarantee that widgets would be approximately the same size (along with
corresponding text)?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I've spent a lot of effort trying to get my text
screens "looking right." An international approach would require a completely
different and more graphics-oriented programming approach (and I'm sure, a far
more technical one than I'm capable of).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">These are just *some* of my thoughts on the issue;
I've a number of others. (Incidentally, in several of my activities, I've even
included a supplementary .txt file with *further* explanations. It would
certainly be feasible to translate these files *in toto* to different languages,
and simply include them in the distribution. OTOH, the .txt files *supplement*
rather than replace the on-screen materials.)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I'm well aware that my "single-language-only"
approach is probably unique to the world of Sugar; I would have liked to
envisage a practical, feasible alternative that might "reach more children." I'd
also appreciate feedback from developers, users, whomever who have looked at the
activities (such as SamplePlay or FileMix). To date, I've received very little -
no doubt at least partly because the activities are rather complex and clearly
directed at older children.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Art Hunkins</font></div></font><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" target="_blank">Chris
Leonard</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="abhunkin@uncg.edu" href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">Art Hunkins</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 10, 2011 10:43
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Sugar-devel]
SamplePlay-2.xo in Sandbox</div>
<div><br></div>Art,<br><br>Would you please consider setting up the
internationaliization to make it possible to translate this
activity?<br><br><a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/going-international-with-pootle/" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/going-international-with-pootle/</a><br>
<br>cjl<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Art Hunkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I hate to bother someone again to reclaim my new version
of SamplePlay from the sandbox. It's been there for 5 or more
days.<br><br>Anything I should be doing to ring my bell louder? Or should I
just wait quietly?<br><br>Thanks to whomever -<br><font color="#888888"><br>Art Hunkins
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