Folks: In safari 5.1 you can hit ctrl-t to open a new tab. Or to the right of the address bar, there is a little drop-down from a page with a corner-turned-down icon t invoke that. The new tab defaults to the 'top' sites frame, but the URL is empty and ready to be filled in. Not recommending this: the chrome, IE, and firefox methods all seem more intuitive to me, just saying that it can be done. KG <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Simon Schampijer <<a href="mailto:simon@schampijer.de">simon@schampijer.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> On 08/17/2011 01:51 PM, Gary Martin wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Simon, On 17 Aug 2011, at 10:20, Simon Schampijer<<a href="mailto:simon@schampijer.de" target="_blank">simon@schampijer.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi, in the current version of Browse tabs are enabled by default. The tabs in Browse has been an unfinished Feature which mainly was meant to fix the issue of a web page opening a new window (this was then opened in a new tab automatically). The latest Browse does add the functionality to let the user add tabs, the '+' button in the toolbar [browse-toolbar]. Having several tabs open looks like [browse-tabs]. A few things to say here: the close icon is not sugarized. The coloring of the tabs is not in a Sugar style and the text does not elipsize - hence the tabs can have different sizes (see Firefox for an example here). I would propose as well to do something similar as Firefox in the latest version: placing the 'add tab' button next to the latest tab [firefox-tabs]. This has the nice side effect of not introducing yet another icon in the toolbar. </blockquote> Unless we show the tab bar at all times (i.e. when you only have one window open), how would a second tab ever be added (other than via a web page opening a new window)? </blockquote> Firefox does show one tab all the time. It is true that this kills a bit of space but I think I could live with that. I checked in Safari: here you can only open links in a new tab (apple-key when you click on the link as a shortcut). You can not open a new empty tab and then type in the URL. That would be another option. We could add the 'open in new tab' to the link palette and reserve as well a short-cut if desired. Is less discoverable though (I had to look up the docs to find it in Safari). A completely non-tab approach do have smart phone UIs like the one for the Galaxy S2. You can open here a new window. That would be similar than opening a new Browse instance which was the original idea of dealing with that use case. So navigating between the browser windows is more natural on those UIs. I would go with the first approach of showing a tab all time from the above options. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Regards, --Gary P.S. Perhaps we could land the sugarized scroll bar at the same time, if I remember we just didn't have a clean way to apply it the Mozilla theme. Pretty sure I spotted the tab visual theme in the same place. </blockquote> Ahh, I remember that vaguely. If you know where it goes and can provide a patch or something more crude for showing off, off we go! :) Regards, Simon _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </blockquote></div>