<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Sascha Silbe wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:1312809566-sup-3682@twin.sascha.silbe.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Sat Aug 06 13:08:48 +0200 2011: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The move represents a shift in design. Previously, Sugar had to implement a dbus service which managed network connections. Now NetworkManager does that for us. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> NetworkManager 0.8 and below already supported system connections, so it's not so much a shift as getting rid of one of two options. It might be a good intermediate step to switch to NM 0.8 + system connections (the original plan of SL#1884 [1]). </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Ubuntu currently ships v0.8, but their next release (Oneric, to be released in October, and which Sugar-0.94 schedule is indirectly based around) will have 0.9. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I wouldn't take Ubuntu as a reference here because the last few Ubuntu releases didn't support Sugar too well. I've even stopped supporting Ubuntu in sugar-jhbuild (though I've heard Alekseys "sweets" supports Ubuntu, even including Browse). </pre> </blockquote> Here are some test Ubuntu HD installs: native install: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.88.1_on_Ubuntu_11.04">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.88.1_on_Ubuntu_11.04</a> (0.88.x sugar and 0.90.3 which is better on jabber.sugarlabs.org since alsroot's jabber fixes.) I have been told that "gnome classic" will not be on next Ubuntu version sweets-sugar: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar-desktop_0.88_on_Ubuntu_10.04_and_10.10">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar-desktop_0.88_on_Ubuntu_10.04_and_10.10</a> Tom Gilliard satellit <blockquote cite="mid:1312809566-sup-3682@twin.sascha.silbe.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Debian Wheezy still has NM 0.8 (some 0.9 pre-release is available in experimental). There's a good chance it will have NM 0.9 before it freezes, though. With my Dextrose hat on, I'd like to see us move to NM 0.9 for the next release. With my Sugar hat on, I'm worried about large changes introducing a lot of regressions, like with Telepathy. While moving to system connections is large enough to be of concern itself, the additional changes required for NM 0.9 increase the risk (though I'm not sure by how much). Sascha [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1884">https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1884</a> </pre> <pre wrap=""> <hr size="4" width="90%"> _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>