<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Art Hunkins <<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> James, Thanks both for your well-expressed advice, as well as your continued interest in my musical projects. I've recently had several "go's" at git - and thanks to your help, did not experience heart failure (it went quite well in fact). I've discovered what was wrong, and so file your suggestions for my next set of troubles. I've been using primarily 1GB USB sticks, which (with Mango especially) doesn't leave much extra room (I use the LiveUSB Creator, reserving the remainder of the stick's space). The hitch about Mango is that it doesn't allow you to delete any activities, *and* once you add some, you can't delete *them* either - even though there is an option to do so. I always load in my six activities, two of which (with sound files) are 7MB each. I've apparently always loaded in the big ones prior to SunMoonMusic. It seems the stick just runs out of space. If I load SunMoonMusic before the others, it opens and runs fine. I would hope that all distributions would allow for deleting activities, *especially* those added by the user. (This seems to be intended; is probably a bug in Mango Lassi.) Many previous distros allowed you to delete any activity you wanted. </blockquote><div> The only activities where deleting is disabled are pre-installed ones. The ones you install should be able to be deleted. If not, this is a bug. Regarding the decision to make pre-installed activities permanent, it is driven by Sugar deployments: teachers requested that certain activities always be available. Which ones is a deployment x deployment decision. For SoaS, we have a very limited set of pre-installed activities, but as the Fedora image grows, the user-space shrinks. FWIW, from the Terminal Activity, you can delete the pre-loaded activities in /usr/share/sugar regards. -walter </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> BTW, I enjoyed your tunes, especially the last few. The "fiddle tune" in triplets is particularly fetching. Thanks again - Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cameron" <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> To: "Art Hunkins" <<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>> Cc: <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SunMoonMusic Activity does not open in Mango Lassi<div><div></div><div class="h5"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I've no idea what might be special, the activity looks normal to me, but if there is no error log left behind my next step in diagnosis is to launch the activity from a Terminal prompt using sugar-launch, then if still no output is visible launch it with strace and interpret the output. To launch using sugar-launch, start Terminal, "cd" to the activity directory, check the activity bundle id or service name from the activity/<a href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a> file, and then use it like so: sugar-launch ${NAME} where ${NAME} os the bundle id or service name, in your case org.laptop.SunMoonMusic. It is unfortunate that this is so complex, but an alternative is: cd ~/Activities/SunMoonMusic.activity && \ sugar-launch \ $(grep bundle_id activity/<a href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a> | cut -f3 -d' ') To capture further diagnostic data using strace, add the word strace before the word sugar-launch. You can redirect the output to a file. cd ~/Activities/SunMoonMusic.activity && \ strace -o strace.log -f \ sugar-launch \ $(grep bundle_id activity/<a href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a> | cut -f3 -d' ') I offer to review the output if you still don't see what is causing the problem. -- James Cameron <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>