<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Martin Dengler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:<br>
> Hello amigos,<br>
><br>
> Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide<br>
> notification-messages system is required as a basis for many bug fixes or<br>
> enhancements.<br>
</div>[...]<br>
<div class="im">> Currently, Sugar does not have a mechanism to communicate to users<br>
> different kind of information about sugar itself.<br>
<br>
</div>What about the notification system? The Log activity? The Journal<br>
Full warning? The Frame? There are a lot of communication<br>
mechanisms, but they dn't seem to do what you wnat:<br>
<div><br></div></blockquote><div><br><br>* The notification system only shows an icon floating, and if you want to show a message you have to implement a palette manually, not so DRY considering all the use cases.<br>* Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening? Even if they do, do you think all that pile of text is really helpful? (for a developer, sure.. for a 7 years kid probably not, and if you want him to understand you would have to translate the log messages anyway).<br>
* The journal full warning is actually a problem to be solved, #630.<br>* What about the frame?, currently it does nothing about this issue. (except for the floating pulsing icon) <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> </div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
> 1. Simple text messages display.<br>
<br>
</div>Where do you think this would best be shown? Text is limited in the<br>
UI to avoid literacy and translation burdens.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> 2. Messages manager, this would help the user to see what messages have been<br>
> delivered in the current session, so they could react to those events (for<br>
> example, reporting bugs).<br>
<br>
</div>Peraps Log could be changed to show this? Or the Frame (doesn't it<br>
already show the last few notifications?)?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Again, why should we force users to start an activity to know what is happening. <br><br>We need sugar to tell the users what is happening otherwise they will never guess it, that is exactly problem in the first place. I can't imagine a kid having to check the log activity every 10 minutes to see if the automatic backup has started recently.<br>
<br>Anyway, if someone does not like the messages and wants just wants to read the log every N minutes they could be disable it :):):)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
> Saludos<br>
> Martin (tch) Abente<br>
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Martin<br>
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