<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Frederick Grose <<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> </blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">There is an orthogonal question,<br>
>> which is if we let the icons move (as with the new spiral and the old<br>
>> random arrangements, how do we tell it to reset to the original<br>
>> layout? My less-than-satisfactory solution is to have one button for<br>
>> reseting and one fr switching in the secondary menu.<br>
><br>
> What is the information value of an earlier than previous pattern view? (If<br>
> that's what you are asking.)<br>
<br>
In the new spiral I have implements, the user can drag icons around on<br>
the screen, much like in the Random View. The question is, how to<br>
restore the spiral if that is what you want?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I see, this would *not* be a purely-fixed Spiral pattern with re-sortable elements, nor a standard Freeform initiated by the fixed pattern, but a hybrid class that allows restoration to the last Spiral before moving elements off the fixed pattern. (Otherwise, with the current behavior, for the Ring, at least, the most-recently moved element would occupy the central position and next previously-moved element the next clockwise position).</div>
<div><br></div><div>If that feature were important, perhaps, we could implement it through named grouped views (more value and effort) or provide an undo history button on the pattern's sub-sub palette.</div><div><br>
</div><div> --Fred</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
-walter<br>
<br>
> Now, when we switch from one pattern to another, the pattern remembers its<br>
> sorting, except for icons that were moved in the Freeform pattern, which are<br>
> moved to the '00 hh' position of the Ring, pushing the other icons clockwise<br>
> (in a reverse queue, if there were multiple moves). The inter-pattern<br>
> adjustments may not be appropriate (other than, perhaps, the Freeform->fixed<br>
> adjustment, which had some information-highlighting utility (still a fixed<br>
> pattern would be re-arrangeable, thankfully, in the current proposals).<br>
> --Fred</blockquote></div>