<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Chris Ball <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjb@laptop.org">cjb@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:<br>
>> See <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar</a> (towards the<br>
>> bottom of the page).<br>
<br>
> +1 on the spiral.<br>
<br>
</div>I like it too. I'm worried that it would scale badly, but Walter<br>
suggested just tightening the spiral, and that sounds good to me.<br>
<br>
Is anyone on the Design Team reading? What would it take to move<br>
forward with (a) including spiral, and (b) making it default?<br>
Should we ask for input from deployments, too?<br>
<br>
Also, how would people feel about a patch that:<br>
* allows drag and drop when in a non-freeform view<br>
* if an icon is moved while in a non-freeform view, the current<br>
layout switches to freeform, and the position of all the<br>
activities is saved as the base for the new freeform<br>
configuration.<br>
<br>
(So, going to spiral, dragging one icon out of place would enable<br>
freeform -- overwriting any previous freeform configuration -- then<br>
going back to spiral using the layout menu would put all icons in<br>
their spiral place, then manually going back to freeform using the<br>
menu would restore you to spiral with the one activity you moved<br>
back in the place you moved it to. Hope that made sense.)<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
- Chris.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 for adding the Spiral pattern as an additional Favorite Home view.</div><div><br></div><div>Since the Home Ring is somewhat of a stylemark for Sugar, I suggest that the Ring pattern be default until the number of Favorites selected exceeds a threshold number (to be determined).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The top, or 00-hh, position is currently used for newly-added Activity bundles and for the position of an Activity or bundle icon that was moved in the preceding Freeform pattern (with the other icons pushed clockwise).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The newly-added Activity bundle icons should probably fill from the center of a Spiral pattern to highlight the new tool.</div><div><br></div><div>As Gary mentioned, there should be a change-free perimeter around an icon to avoid un-intentional pattern changes. I would suggest a distance of at least 1/2 the diameter of the icon on any of the fixed patterns and the minimum grid dimension for the Freeform pattern.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The icon snap and reflow reordering directly on a patterned view sounds more discoverable and usable for those intending to reorder a fixed pattern. For those intending to customize the pattern based on one of the fixed patterns, the fixed->Freeform shift would be more usable. To accommodate both intentions, the snap & reflow method could be called if the icon center were dropped on top of another icon.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>It would be nice if <a href="http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535">http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535</a> to include a 'View Source' subpalette item on the Home view Frame icon could be worked in to provide Learners easy access to the source for their amazing learning companion.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for all the new features!</div><div><br></div><div> --Fred</div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">