Bernie.<div><br></div><div>Thanks so much for this.</div><div>With the 5th grade US students I work with, this customization is really important to their sense of ownership.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us.</div> <div><br></div><div>Thanks.<br>Gerald<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Bernie Innocenti <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im">On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:<br> <br> > So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the<br> > gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar<br> > color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it<br> > enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing designer friends ;)<br> > they're kids after all ...<br> <br> </div>I feel that Sugar should aim to reach the same level of "hackability" of<br> eToys: every UI element is an object that you could drag, drop, copy or<br> modify.<br> <br> Of course, this has consequences in terms of stability and clarity.<br> Before we could unleash this power we need to think of ways to recover<br> from mistakes. If multiple undo is too hard, a "restore everything to<br> defaults" might be good enough.<br> <br> Perhaps we're worrying too much. Re-installing the system from USB takes<br> only 3 minutes and is already being done very often. A boy just showed<br> up on the door of the repair lab, saying: "se borró el Navegador" (the<br> Browse activity deleted itself :-)<br> <br> All we need to do is make the backup-update-restore procedure slightly<br> more automated so that kids and teachers could do it without bothering<br> the technicians.<br> <br> Actually, we don't even need to worry too much for a solid backup and<br> restore procedure. I've always suspected that most kids wouldn't care<br> about preserving their diary. Now it's confirmed: kids are flocking here<br> to get the new version of Sugar even though their journals are not going<br> to be preserved across the upgrade.<br> <br> On the other hand, teachers and teacher trainers always ask to preserve<br> the content of their journal. Technicians use a pair of simple shell<br> scripts to tar up the journal to a USB stick, so they don't depend on<br> being within the range of the correct school server.<br> <br> I'll summarize all these things in a field report asap.<br> <div class="im"><br> --<br> // Bernie Innocenti - <a href="http://codewiz.org/" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org/</a><br> \X/ Sugar Labs - <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Sugar-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>