Works for me. Talk to you then. Gerald <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt <<a href="mailto:christianmarc@gmail.com">christianmarc@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Does 10:30AM EST on Sunday work? Christian <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Gerald Ardito <<a href="mailto:gmanb5@gmail.com">gmanb5@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Christian, > > What time would that be? > > Gerald > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt > <<a href="mailto:christianmarc@gmail.com">christianmarc@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> Hi Gerald and Simon >> It would be great to debrief in detail on your findings from the tests. >> Could we try to meet this Sunday (instead of Saturday), same time? >> Thanks, >> Christian >> >> On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Gerald Ardito <<a href="mailto:gmanb5@gmail.com">gmanb5@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> Simon, >> >> I conducted the test we discussed with my 5th graders today. There were >> six students involved in the focus group. >> >> First of all, they concurred with your results. They loved the feature of >> being able to either Start New or Resume right from the Home View. As did >> your students, mine remarked that it was way easier than going to the >> Journal. They also mentioned that more often than not they are continuing >> past work, as opposed to starting something new, so they found this feature >> very valuable. >> >> The Naming alert (present in this build) was something they found in their >> way. They are used to naming their work right from the activity, so this >> seemed like an extra step to them. They are not used to making notes in the >> Journal, so this feature didn't add much for them, although I certainly see >> how it could be really useful. >> >> I hope this is helpful. >> >> Best, >> Gerald >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Simon Schampijer <<a href="mailto:simon@schampijer.de">simon@schampijer.de</a>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I did a little survey in the Planetarium pilot last week [1]. The >>> subject was "Start new" vs "Restart" in the home view. Christian did >>> provide a test case and I made a Soas version of Sugar that let's you >>> change the behavior with a button in the Home View [2]. >>> >>> While of course there were interesting observations to make about >>> starting activities one other user feedback caught my eye, too. There >>> was a question in the survey: The naming alert. >>> >>> A little background: When I started the pilot, stopping the activity was >>> a hard task for the learners. First you need to find the stop button, >>> then you had to dismiss the naming alert. I use the wording "dismiss" >>> because for new learners it does not make much sense, since they don't >>> understand the concept of the Journal etc yet. What I did was, I removed >>> the naming alert which improved temporarily somehow the situation. Since >>> I wanted the kids to take notes I introduced an workflow introduced by >>> the teacher. After each lesson (normally the kids work in one activity >>> in a lesson), I let them take notes in the Journal entry. This works >>> quite well and the kids like it a lot to do this. I tell them: "Describe >>> in your words what you did today." You can write there as well if you >>> did like it or not, or if it was hard task. And sometimes I give them a >>> few words that should be contained. Like "coordinating system" when i >>> did a lesson in Etoys on that. >>> >>> When doing the test the Naming Alert was present in the build. And the >>> testers said: "Oh, that is nice, so I do not have to search for the >>> Journal entry to take my notes." I asked them what does it look like and >>> they said: "A bit like the Journal." >>> >>> What I concluded is: For the workflow it is important to have a way to >>> directly take notes related to that activity you are doing at the >>> moment. I still think, that it would be better to have that option in >>> the activity toolbar, like discussed in the Design meetings. And I will >>> strike for getting this into 0.90 :) But I think, if the kids use the >>> Journal and take notes, the naming alert is not such a bad thing for >>> 0.84. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Simon >>> >>> [1] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium</a> >>> [2] <a href="http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso" target="_blank">http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso</a>, >>> <a href="http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso" target="_blank">http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso</a> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> >> > > </div></div>-- <a href="mailto:anything@christianmarcschmidt.com">anything@christianmarcschmidt.com</a> 917/ 575 0013 <a href="http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com" target="_blank">http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com</a> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmarcschmidt" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmarcschmidt</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/cms_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/cms_</a> </blockquote></div>