<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jim Simmons <<a href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Last night I attempted to begin the chapter in my book on </blockquote><div>snip </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> So I try various Jabber servers from this page: <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers</a> Of all of them only <a href="http://jabber.laptop.org" target="_blank">jabber.laptop.org</a> lets me see other users in the Neighborhood. Not the other copy of sugar-emulator I have running. No, that would be too much to hope for. But in ONE copy of sugar-emulator I see ONE other user. The other copy sees nobody. </blockquote><div><a href="http://jabber.sugarlabs.org">jabber.sugarlabs.org</a> should work. I am maintaining that server so if you have a chance to visit #sugar in irc we might be able to troubleshoot this. My nickname is "daveb". </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I've let both copies of sugar-emulator run for awhile and now they can both see the same set of users. Needless to say they still can't see EACH OTHER. </blockquote><div> I have tested this using virtualbox running two Sugar on a Stick VMs and it has worked previously. I would expect in this case sugar-emulator should work as well as long as it is really using distinct jabber ids. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I also have sugar-jhbuild running on my F11 box, and it can see the same three users but nobody else. I just wish I knew how to deal with this situation, or that Sugar could do something to at least give me a hint if something is wrong with my setup. If I can't get around it then the "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" book will have no chapter on collaboration. </blockquote><div>Make sure you have the analyze activity installed. It can provide useful information for troubleshooting collaboration. Dave </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Sorry for all the venting. James Simmons _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </blockquote></div> -- Dave Bauer <a href="mailto:dave@solutiongrove.com">dave@solutiongrove.com</a> <a href="http://www.solutiongrove.com">http://www.solutiongrove.com</a>