<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18812"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Caroline,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The solution you are looking for was suggested by Bill a week or so ago to my same question. It (timeout 0) works flawlessly.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I quote (me, then Bill):</FONT></DIV> <DIV>> I've one suggestion for Bill: for use by children, I'd make everything as<BR>> automatic as possible. Either delete the display where the user needs to<BR>> make a choice (it's *way* technical and *I* didn't know what to do), or put<BR>> a (10"?) auto-timer on it so that it goes on through (the usual way) without<BR>> user intervention.<BR><BR>It's easy to put a timeout in or even eliminate the delay entirely.<BR>Because a floppy is easily writable (unlike a CD) you<BR>can even do it yourself.  There is a text file called<BR>kexec-loader.conf on the floppy.  You should be able to edit it with<BR>any<BR>text editor and change the line "timeout off" to have a number<BR>instead.   It can be either 0 (boot immediately) or wait the specified<BR>number of seconds.  If you look at the rest of the file you can get<BR>some idea of what is going on.<BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've tested CD helper vs. floppy helper on Pentium III generation computer. On these, floppies take *way* longer than CD's: 5 minutes (minimum) to 1 (actually, more like 10:2). Even though boot times are significant, the actual *Activity* executions are satisfactory (though hardly "peppy"). Overall performance is similar to the XO-1.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Art Hunkins</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=solutiongrove@gmail.com href="mailto:solutiongrove@gmail.com">Caroline Meeks</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=abhunkin@uncg.edu href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu">Art Hunkins</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=walter.bender@gmail.com href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">Walter Bender</A> ; <A title=community-news@lists.sugarlabs.org href="mailto:community-news@lists.sugarlabs.org">community-news@lists.sugarlabs.org</A> ; <A title=iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep</A> ; <A title=sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-dev Devel</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:48 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Sugar-devel] Bill Bogstad's floppy disk boot (Soas)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I tested this on the GPA computer lab computers. It takes about 1 more minute (4.5 vs 3.5) to boot.  I think that it will take more then a minute on average to give all the students CDs, have them open the CD drawer, turn off the computer, turn it on again and collect all the CD at the end of class so that the next class boots into Windows.  My plan is the floppies can just live in the machines, not pushed in all the way. <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The current version requires the user to press enter 1 minute into the process. Can we get a version that we just start the boot, then goto the rug for our lesson and 4.5 minutes later the machines are booted?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Thanks!<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Art Hunkins <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu">abhunkin@uncg.edu</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>With regard to Bill Bogstad's floppy boot disk project for SoaS: it works<BR>flawlessly for me. (I've tried it successfully on both an older Windows<BR>laptop and desktop - vintages: Pentium II/III.)<BR><BR>I've one suggestion for Bill: for use by children, I'd make everything as<BR>automatic as possible. Either delete the display where the user needs to<BR>make a choice (it's *way* technical and *I* didn't know what to do), or put<BR>a (10"?) auto-timer on it so that it goes on through (the usual way) without<BR>user intervention.<BR><BR>For Windows people: I suggest creating the boot disk with RAWriteWin. It's<BR>simple, user-friendly and efficient.<BR><BR>Great job, Bill.<BR><BR>Art Hunkins<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Walter Bender" <<A href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: <<A href="mailto:community-news@lists.sugarlabs.org">community-news@lists.sugarlabs.org</A>><BR>Cc: "iaep" <<A href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</A>>; "Sugar-dev Devel"<BR><<A href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</A>><BR>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:55 AM<BR>Subject: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-09-11<BR><BR><BR>=== Sugar Digest ===<BR><BR>7. Bill Bogstad has been working on a floppy boot disk for Sugar on a<BR>Stick. See <A href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~bogstad/floppy/" target=_blank>http://people.sugarlabs.org/~bogstad/floppy/</A> for more<BR>details.<BR><BR>-walter<BR>--<BR>Walter Bender<BR>Sugar Labs<BR><A href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target=_blank>http://www.sugarlabs.org</A><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Sugar-devel mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target=_blank>http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</A><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Sugar-devel mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target=_blank>http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Caroline Meeks<BR>Solution Grove<BR>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<BR><BR>617-500-3488 - Office<BR>505-213-3268 - Fax<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>