Great discussion.<div><br></div><div>I'd love to be able to have a name for the next release because I need to talk about it a great deal these days. I say "Should we base our spin on Strawberry or the "next release"." I talk about: Should we try to combine Strawberry codebase and the new tool bar design?.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Can I start calling it Blueberry? Is the new toolbar design the Blueberry style toolbar? </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Caroline<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Dengler<<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:<br>
>> I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering<br>
><br>
> You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard<br>
> to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a<br>
> directory...so I was hoping that you would just say "yes" or "no - use<br>
> [this one]" when I asked you:<br>
><br>
>> > Ah - so perhaps this:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png</a><br>
><br>
> [Hoped for:]<br>
>> YES - use #5<br>
> [or]<br>
>> NO - use #4<br>
><br>
> But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got:<br>
><br>
>> About the logo, it's the "blueberriest" one we will want, variant 4<br>
><br>
> Aha so it's 4...but no, wait:<br>
><br>
>> the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry<br>
>> launch, variant 6:<br>
>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners</a><br>
><br>
> ...so it's...6?!<br>
><br>
> So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said<br>
> second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one<br>
> of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)?<br>
><br>
><br>
>> No, there wasn't "marketing decided", it was Tomeu who thought of<br>
>> flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit<br>
>> since "natural" wholesome sugars, a "fun treat for kids"), and<br>
>> sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting.<br>
><br>
> Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT<br>
> flavours: "Cherry-Oak" is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking<br>
> about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours:<br>
<br>
</div></div>I think it's most appropriate to say that this idea was developed<br>
collectively. I don't remember what I said nor why, but I think I was<br>
expressing support for someone else's earlier idea.<br>
<br>
I think most or all specific suggestions in this thread will work well<br>
and I don't think it's much worth discussing which one will be best.<br>
<br>
If someone really cares, we could define a process to decide names<br>
such as Fedora's, though I really hope we find better names than them,<br>
which I personally dislike even more than Ubuntu's.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Tomeu<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
>>>> [SeanDaly]<br>
>>> [Eben]<br>
>> [Tomeu]<br>
>>>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo<br>
>>>> color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what<br>
>>>> color is the Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty<br>
>>> awesome idea.<br>
>><br>
>> So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming<br>
>> releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc<br>
><br>
> When I say "marketing decided ice cream", I mean:<br>
><br>
> 1) marketing came up with the idea:<br>
><br>
> [11:16:41] <SeanDaly> So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based<br>
> on the boot logo color?<br>
> [...]<br>
> [11:18:38] <SeanDaly> caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can<br>
> really serve us<br>
><br>
> 2) marketing championed it<br>
><br>
> [12:30:02] <SeanDaly> sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name?<br>
> [...]<br>
> [12:30:44] <SeanDaly> I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i<br>
> don't think we have a logo that color<br>
><br>
> 3) marketing called the vote:<br>
><br>
> [12:34:07] <SeanDaly> Can we go with logo 06 "Strawberry" for this<br>
> release?<br>
> [12:34:26] <SeanDaly> we can disagree all summer over the next one<br>
> (joke)<br>
> [...]<br>
> [12:35:54] <mtd> strawberry +1<br>
> [...]<br>
> [12:36:24] <caroline> strawberry +1<br>
> [...]<br>
> [12:36:49] <sdziallas> strawberry +1 from me, too ;)<br>
><br>
> 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :)<br>
><br>
> It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is<br>
> nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision.<br>
> If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :).<br>
><br>
><br>
>> The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked<br>
>> on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the<br>
>> development process.<br>
><br>
> Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right?<br>
><br>
>> But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond<br>
>> the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months,<br>
>> not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest<br>
>> and most fun one.<br>
><br>
> Ok, I'm convinced.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> [marketing tips]<br>
>> Is this clear I hope?<br>
><br>
> That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should<br>
> teach a course!<br>
><br>
>> thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Sean<br>
><br>
> Martin<br>
><br>
><br>
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