Great discussion.<div> </div><div>I'd love to be able to have a name for the next release because I need to talk about it a great deal these days. I say "Should we base our spin on Strawberry or the "next release"." I talk about: Should we try to combine Strawberry codebase and the new tool bar design?.</div> <div> </div><div>Can I start calling it Blueberry? Is the new toolbar design the Blueberry style toolbar? </div><div> </div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Caroline <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Dengler<<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering > > You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard > to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a > directory...so I was hoping that you would just say "yes" or "no - use > [this one]" when I asked you: > >> > Ah - so perhaps this: >> > >> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png</a> >> > >> > ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: >> > >> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png</a> > > [Hoped for:] >> YES - use #5 > [or] >> NO - use #4 > > But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: > >> About the logo, it's the "blueberriest" one we will want, variant 4 > > Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: > >> the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry >> launch, variant 6: >> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners</a> > > ...so it's...6?! > > So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said > second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one > of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? > > >> No, there wasn't "marketing decided", it was Tomeu who thought of >> flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit >> since "natural" wholesome sugars, a "fun treat for kids"), and >> sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. > > Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT > flavours: "Cherry-Oak" is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking > about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: </div></div>I think it's most appropriate to say that this idea was developed collectively. I don't remember what I said nor why, but I think I was expressing support for someone else's earlier idea. I think most or all specific suggestions in this thread will work well and I don't think it's much worth discussing which one will be best. If someone really cares, we could define a process to decide names such as Fedora's, though I really hope we find better names than them, which I personally dislike even more than Ubuntu's. Regards, Tomeu <div><div></div><div class="h5"> >>>> [SeanDaly] >>> [Eben] >> [Tomeu] >>>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo >>>> color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what >>>> color is the Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number. >>> >>> I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty >>> awesome idea. >> >> So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming >> releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc > > When I say "marketing decided ice cream", I mean: > > 1) marketing came up with the idea: > > [11:16:41] <SeanDaly> So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based > on the boot logo color? > [...] > [11:18:38] <SeanDaly> caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can > really serve us > > 2) marketing championed it > > [12:30:02] <SeanDaly> sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? > [...] > [12:30:44] <SeanDaly> I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i > don't think we have a logo that color > > 3) marketing called the vote: > > [12:34:07] <SeanDaly> Can we go with logo 06 "Strawberry" for this > release? > [12:34:26] <SeanDaly> we can disagree all summer over the next one > (joke) > [...] > [12:35:54] <mtd> strawberry +1 > [...] > [12:36:24] <caroline> strawberry +1 > [...] > [12:36:49] <sdziallas> strawberry +1 from me, too ;) > > 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) > > It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is > nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. > If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). > > >> The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked >> on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the >> development process. > > Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? > >> But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond >> the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, >> not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest >> and most fun one. > > Ok, I'm convinced. > > >> [marketing tips] >> Is this clear I hope? > > That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should > teach a course! > >> thanks >> >> Sean > > Martin > > </div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> > </div></div>-- ŤSugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. 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