A crossover cable is a really interesting idea. That would be a simple way to set up two machines in a hallway to collaborate.<div> </div><div>If anyone can test it would be appreciated. I'll try to get one so we can test on Monday. <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Gary C Martin <<a href="mailto:gary@garycmartin.com">gary@garycmartin.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im">On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:35, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Gary C Martin wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Sascha Silbe wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. </blockquote> I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. </blockquote> FWIW: All my testing has been done over wireless, so no wired results to report. I do have a switch and 2 machines so I might be able to test over ethernet and see if I can reproduce the issue here. </blockquote> That would be good. Even a crossover cable between two machines would be enough to test the system. </blockquote> </div> Yep thanks, wires are with a friend, will be a few days before I can test here, will give that route a test as well as a fallback if the switch is not playing well.<div class="im"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> My current best diagnosis is that the dhcpcd on Strawberry has somehow been configured without zeroconf, so it does not acquire a link-local address and bring up the interface in the absence of a DHCP server. I freely admit, though, that this diagnosis doesn't make a lot of sense, because Fedora has generally embraced zeroconf and Avahi, and there's no reason Strawberry should be different from stock Fedora in this regard. </blockquote> </div> Yea, I'm not clear also on where the issue lies, hopefully reproduction of the failure in a test environment will push us in the right direction (sorry I can't do this right now) :-) Regards, --Gary </blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax </div>