Tomeu,<br><br>> 5) SocialCalc save and restore doesn't work. After saving, there is a<br>
> Journal entry but when they open it the information is not there.<br>
<br>
>Manu, know anything about it? I guess having a ticket with the<br>
>activity logs would help here.<br><br>Yes, this bug was existing in an earlier version of SocialCalc, which has been fixed in 0.8.3g release.<br><br>Save and restore should work very well now. <br><br>Gabriel, please ask the teacher to download the latest SocialCalc activity package from <a href="http://seeta.in/j/downloads.html">here</a> . Kindly let me know if we run into any issues. Thank you for sharing the feedback.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Manu<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
2009/8/13 Gabriel Eirea <<a href="mailto:geirea@gmail.com">geirea@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I'm sending below the original text (in Spanish) of a teacher friend's<br>
> request. I'll try to translate her main concerns.<br>
><br>
> 1) Mesh network doesn't work. Very few kids can get in the same<br>
> "network". She claims it got worse with the latest update in Ceibal.<br>
<br>
Not sure we can debug this remotely :/<br>
<br>
Andrés, do you know about any work in the Ceibal plan to determine the<br>
reliability of the mesh network?<br>
<br>
> 2) She saves Write documents in the pendrive, then she opens them at<br>
> home with KUbuntu and OpenOffice, then she saves the modified document<br>
> in the pendrive and tries to open it in the XO with Write. She claims<br>
> she can't open it even if the document was not modified.<br>
><br>
> 3) Same scenario as 2), she saves it from KUbuntu as a pdf in a<br>
> pendrive. She can't open it back in the XO (she gets a "blank page").<br>
><br>
> 4) The previous cases are frustrating because she wants to be able to<br>
> move back and forth between the XO and her (convenitonal) laptop.<br>
<br>
I understand the frustration, do you think we could get copies of<br>
those files and more details about the workflow?<br>
<br>
About usb sticks, in versions earlier than 0.84 we are using a scheme<br>
that is quite fragile, specially when using the same stick with<br>
non-sugar computers.<br>
<br>
I would recommend deleting the .olpc.store in the usb stick after<br>
every usage in a non-sugar computer and see if weird things stop<br>
happening. If this helps somehow, then we should find a way to<br>
publicize this trick. Note that from Sugar 0.84 this is not needed.<br>
<br>
> 5) SocialCalc save and restore doesn't work. After saving, there is a<br>
> Journal entry but when they open it the information is not there.<br>
<br>
Manu, know anything about it? I guess having a ticket with the<br>
activity logs would help here.<br>
<br>
> 6) She claims that files dissappear for no reason. This probably needs<br>
> to be clarified. She discards the possibility of kids deleting files<br>
> by accident.<br>
<br>
Yes, this deserves further clarification. It's a very wide issue, so<br>
we'll need a way to track all the different circumstances in which<br>
data reliability can happen. The journal data store was rewritten in<br>
0.84 with increasing reliability on mind, but I guess it will take a<br>
while to update all machines to that or later versions of Sugar.<br>
<br>
> Now the question is, how can we get these questions in reasonable<br>
> shape so it is useful information for debugging?<br>
<br>
That's the Million Laptops Question ;)<br>
<br>
We are doing nice progress on this, but it's a really big task.<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot,<br>
<br>
Tomeu<br>
<br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Gabriel<br>
><br>
><br>
> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------<br>
><br>
> Quisiera que supieras que tenemos algunos problemas con varias cosas<br>
> en la xo y me parece que son puntos importantes para que podamos<br>
> trabajar mejor con la máquina. te paso algunos, y vos ves si pueden<br>
> hacer algo al respecto.<br>
> Las redes malla siguen funcionando mal, y desde que se actualizaron<br>
> las máquinas es peor, son muy pocos los niños que logran entrar en la<br>
> misma red.<br>
> He tenido dificultades cuando guardo en el pen drive textos realizados<br>
> en write, los leo con el open office y luego vuelvo a cargarlo en sus<br>
> máquinas y no me los lee, aún cuando no les realizo ninguna<br>
> modificación. Probé cambiándole el formato a pdf, que sé que las xo lo<br>
> leen, y no pude, cuando abro el pen en la xo y hago clic en el<br>
> archivo, ahí puedo ver que está el texto (no lo abrió aún) y hago clic<br>
> en retomar y qqueda la hoja en blanco. no tengo idea como voy a hacer<br>
> para que reparen el texto si ellos no lo bajan en la xo.<br>
> yo no entiendo, pensé que al tener kubuntu y el open office podría<br>
> trabajar igual que los niños, pasando de una máquina a la otra sin<br>
> problemas. Necesito saber más para poder manejarme mejor.<br>
> otra dificultad que encontré es que en el social calc, la planilla<br>
> electrónica, a la mitad de los chicos se les borra la información al<br>
> guardar, es decir, queda en el journal como guardada, pero los datos<br>
> no aparecen en pantalla cuando abrís.<br>
> Pasa mucho que les desaparecen los archivos, se les borran solos.<br>
> Antes creía que eran ellos que los borraban sin querer, pero ahora me<br>
> doy cuenta que es así.<br>
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