We can put it in front of actual kids once you get a sample working. We could even try playing the video for our existing classes. I don't know if they'll be able to give you feedback from just seeing the video. Might be interesting to find out. <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Gary C Martin <<a href="mailto:gary@garycmartin.com">gary@garycmartin.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Tomeu,<div class="im"> On 17 Jul 2009, at 09:52, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Here are my image mock-ups for Write. All tabs are swapped out as is, for toolbar buttons. With no need to move existing tab content features about: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Proposals/Toolbars#Top_level_Activity_toolbar_for_Write" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Proposals/Toolbars#Top_level_Activity_toolbar_for_Write</a> </blockquote> These look really great! I would like to hear opinions from people who have worked with kids and Sugar. </blockquote> </div> +1<div class="im"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> If they agree to move forward on this, I think we can go full speed ahead. </blockquote> </div> Yes, we need that feedback! Having worked closely on these, I can't fairly comment, I'm "in the box" so to speak. We need feedback from other folks "out side the box". Though I am happy to wave a flag and shout "having the Stop button always visible at the top right of every Activity toolbar" is a huge win ;-) My big criticism of the design is actually "there's no text for the literate". I can see adults struggling more with this interface vs. lowering the bar a for the very young and/or illiterate. Secondary palettes still get their text labels, just like they do now, thank goodness. But, the primary tool buttons are all without text labels (good for ease of translation, but good icons are much harder to create than a text name).<div class="im"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Thanks for the great work, </blockquote> </div> Thanks, glad you like them :-) Regards, --Gary P.S. I've been trying to work through your "[IAEP] future of the Sugar user experience" email from 6 weeks or so back from a design point of view, think I've managed to touch on most items (but not all). </blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax