The problem with the icons, I have as well on my linpus. Fedora 8 that I start with sugar-emulator. There the one patch with starter is not needed. The report is with jhbuild on debian jaunty. I built it from scratch. Started with jhbuild run you can download my entire build snapshot with patch here: <a href="http://download.tuxfamily.org/flossk/fullpackage.tgz">http://download.tuxfamily.org/flossk/fullpackage.tgz</a> md5: 82ea297f4a8b683ba8778178cd88cd91 size: 367864811 I will be back in the office on Monday, then i can work on this more. It is behavior that I have seen on all ubuntu 9.04 standard package installs. obviously this is just a hack to get thing working, I would love to have the time to learn more about the system to help debug it. as soon as I have more time, I will look into it. thanks, mike <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sascha Silbe <<a href="mailto:sascha-ml-ui-sugar-devel@silbe.org">sascha-ml-ui-sugar-devel@silbe.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:41:47AM +0200, James Michael DuPont wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <a href="http://ping.fm/vip4k" target="_blank">http://ping.fm/vip4k</a> <a href="http://ping.fm/66dXb" target="_blank">http://ping.fm/66dXb</a> <a href="http://ping.fm/b8s9t" target="_blank">http://ping.fm/b8s9t</a> </blockquote></div> This looks like there's something gone wrong during startup and you're trying to fix the symptom, not the cause. Can you tell me what your environment is exactly? Sugar-jhbuild or distro packages? Which distro? How do you start sugar? ... CU Sascha -- <a href="http://sascha.silbe.org/" target="_blank">http://sascha.silbe.org/</a> <a href="http://www.infra-silbe.de/" target="_blank">http://www.infra-silbe.de/</a> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKT0roAAoJELpz82VMF3DaJ7QIAJW8thRfqDFWYxdpiStJ/Avr RiVwjdhLYE08YOAAEBc2aWJQVueRos7gxvTbnvmlbc4lH4f08n7tYoiHbzBa+FvM 6/ST5Ploeus/haMl8SET2na3JZv1PUHivBnaC2Rb1/dCYTK9Q5o5j4DbKmwzMrff 2L66QjbQdzEKqHDbByzHOSfxeZc3XptkwVYvnwPGf/pwjbL9fWqaE949VTBpnpJS lZbawwUseaKYtPoEMqHrUXGUajge5n9z/AArBhj4DOg2Qvgq2zlF845fNtau+dU5 KjhQfCVIKN2a+q355x7i8QyzMYnQk+y4koDAatFSAa3he8LUn7czij3wAW7GQbY= =XgZl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </blockquote></div> -- James Michael DuPont Founding Board Member Free/Libre Open Source Software Kosova FLOSSK