<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/5/1 Martin Dengler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:48:08AM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote:<br>
> OK, the grand unified proposal for these, after discussion on IRC and the<br>
> above is:<br>
> f,j,r,s,v,p,o -> frame, journal, rotate, say, view source, screenshot<br>
> ("print"), overlay (unimplemented)<br>
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> <alt><shift>[fjrsvp] = deprecated, but kept for emulator users on<br>
> MacOS.<br>
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</div>I'd say just "emulator users".<br>
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> <alt>[fjrsvp] = preferred method for above, discoverable through holding alt<br>
> and reading the "cheat sheet".<br>
> F9-F12 = frame, journal, overlay, view source<br>
> This order is changed from the XO, because of netbook keyboards missing<br>
> dedicated F11/F12 keys. I'm agnostic about view source needing a dedicated<br>
> key.<br>
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</div>I don't see the need for <alt>[fjrsvp]: we have frame, journal, and<br>
view source available in one click via F9-F11 (IIUC your<br>
some-netbooks-share-F11-and-F12 comment), and we have the existing,<br>
ubiquitous fallbacks of <alt><shift>[...]. Why deprecate the existing<br>
combinations in favor of combinations that are more likely to clash<br>
with existing applications?</blockquote><div><br>Because the <alt> keys are more consistent and discoverable. That's also why I don't just say "emulator users" above; the new keys would be available to non-mac emulator users. Finally, note that if the <alt> keys never get to sugar in macOS emulation, then activities already should be avoiding them.<br>
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> Insert = frame (redundant)<br>
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What about CapsLock for Macs (non-emulation)?</blockquote><div><br>Honestly, if we want a consistent and more-useful remapping of CapsLock, we should consider making it control_R. But I'm ready to let others decide this, it's not a big deal for me.<br>
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