<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br>My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity collaboration is that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that there are real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling as the viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me commenting, I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also comment.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If that is indeed the case then I will go with viral-activity idea. Any idea who put up the dissimilar activity collaboration idea on the idea list. Maybe he/she might have a different outlook towards it. Suggestions on this are requested :)<br>
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<br>As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force you and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be very hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on this latter point.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I completely agree with you. The reason why I mentioned Groupthink was because I seriously appreciated it and wanted to do something like this for Sugar (according to my capabilities).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Few more suggestions on the project idea and then I will start making the proposal.</div><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn <<a href="mailto:jameson.quinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">jameson.quinn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes<br>> through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to go<br>> through some of the application process over again. We don't need to<br>
> interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need a<br>> specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take a week<br>> or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to evaluate<br>
> the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it. Otherwise, how<br>> can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've "completed" your internship?<br>><br>> I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable calendar you<br>
> set up for those steps.<br>><br>> Jameson<br>> <br>> 2009/4/26 kartik rustagi <<a href="mailto:kashes911@gmail.com" target="_blank">kashes911@gmail.com</a>><br>>><br>>> Hi David,<br>>> I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell at<br>
>> my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be<br>>> needing are:<br>>> 1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my<br>>> internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This letter<br>
>> should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should<br>>> have some other kind of authentication.<br>>> 2) And at the end of training I will need a completion certificate.<br>>><br>
>> I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will be<br>>> more convenient. The official period of the internship will start from<br>>> the last week of May after the university exams (going on right now).<br>
>><br>>> Delhi College of Engineering : <a href="http://www.dce.ac.in" target="_blank">www.dce.ac.in</a>, <a href="http://www.dce.edu" target="_blank">www.dce.edu</a><br>>><br>>> Regards<br>>> Kartik Rustagi<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn <<a href="mailto:jameson.quinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">jameson.quinn@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>>> >> Kartik,<br>>> >><br>>> >> I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to contribute and<br>>> >> fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more about what<br>
>> >> kind<br>>> >> of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more on<br>>> >> communications, because that's what I know as your expertise, but if<br>>> >> you are<br>
>> >> interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there are<br>>> >> probably<br>>> >> other ideas for you.<br>>> >><br>>> >> I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was<br>
>> >> talking<br>>> >> with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had two<br>>> >> ideas:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Some way of completing your original project idea without involving<br>
>> >> Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned Webdav,<br>>> >> but<br>>> >> said "The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise)<br>>> >> connection<br>
>> >> to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into Salut in<br>>> >> some<br>>> >> ad-hoc way.... So it would have to live outside of Salut, but still ask<br>>> >> Salut for the IP address associated with a given contact, etc.... Maybe<br>
>> >> it<br>>> >> could get its own Telepathy connection manager, but now this is really<br>>> >> getting out of control." In other words, you'd have to have some<br>>> >> serious<br>
>> >> conversations with him to redesign how this would work.<br>>> >> One part of the original sugar design that has never been realized is<br>>> >> the<br>>> >> ability to share in activities without previously installing them on<br>
>> >> your<br>>> >> machine. That would mean that whenever you joined a shared activity,<br>>> >> your<br>>> >> copy of sugar would automatically download, install, and run a copy of<br>
>> >> the<br>>> >> host's version of the activity. It would require having a way to hash<br>>> >> activities; the ability to have more than one version of the same<br>>> >> activity<br>
>> >> simultaneously installed and running; some policy for garbage<br>>> >> collecting old<br>>> >> installed activity versions; and teaching Sugar to appropriately use<br>>> >> the<br>
>> >> existing file transfer mechanisms in telepathy. I suspect that this<br>>> >> project<br>>> >> would be more under your own control than your original proposal, and I<br>>> >> think that the time is ripe for Sugar to grow this functionality.<br>
>> >><br>>> >> As to the paperwork for your internship requirements at your school,<br>>> >> Walter<br>>> >> Bender (also copied on this mail) has said he could probably help you<br>
>> >> with<br>>> >> that. Talk to him.<br>>> ><br>>> > Kartik,<br>>> > Do you have a contact at your school for handling the internship<br>>> > requirements? If so, please have him contact us so we can insure that<br>
>> > the paper work is set up for you.<br>>> ><br>>> > thanks<br>>> > david<br>>> ><br>>> >> Hope this helps, and good luck!<br>>> >> Jameson<br>>> >><br>
>> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, kartik rustagi <<a href="mailto:kashes911@gmail.com" target="_blank">kashes911@gmail.com</a>><br>>> >> wrote:<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Hi Jameson,<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of station. First of all thanks a<br>>> >>> lot for showing this gesture towards me, it really meant a lot. It<br>>> >>> would have been had I got through Gsoc but none the less my passion<br>
>> >>> towards contributing to Sugar and open source in general still<br>>> >>> remains. Yes resume building was one of the reason for me to apply for<br>>> >>> Gsoc, but along with that it would have served as an internship that<br>
>> >>> we must do in the coming months of June and July. I will have to talk<br>>> >>> to college authority whether working for Sugar will do the job or not.<br>>> >>> In the mean time can you please let me know the projects that have<br>
>> >>> recently started or are yet to start and where I can fit in.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> --<br>>> >>> Regards<br>>> >>> Kartik Rustagi<br>>> >><br>
>> >><br>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>>> >> Sugar-devel mailing list<br>>> >> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> ><br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>>> Regards<br>>> Kartik Rustagi<br>><br>><br><br><br><br></div></div>-- <br>Regards<br>Kartik Rustagi<br><br></div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Regards<br>Kartik Rustagi<br>