<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Regarding my interests, it has always been towards networking and as much away from UI as I can :). The areas I am interested in working includes communication or any other background improvements sugar requires. I was particularly impressed by Groupthink because it solves a core problem for sugar and I will definitely like to do some thing of this sort (research+implementation). I guess a lot of work will be done on Groupthink as a part of this year's Gsoc. Another research oriented project I found <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas" target="_blank">here</a> is the "Toolkit for dissimilar activity collaboration" idea. Can someone please update me on this and whether this will be an appropriate project to start for me and if I will have a mentor to assist me on this (high priority). </blockquote> <div> My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity collaboration is that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that there are real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling as the viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me commenting, I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also comment. As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force you and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be very hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on this latter point. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> </div><div>Regarding the two ideas listed in the earlier mail I will be more inclined towards the second one, but my priority will go towards the one I mentioned above. One thing which I will prefer to be their in my project is that it should fall completely within Sugar and will require less dependence on any other organization. Please take this factor in consideration too when you comment on any project idea.</div> </blockquote><div> I think that the viral activity idea could be a good fit for you. It certainly looks as if it falls entirely inside Sugar, relying on only existing functionality from Telepathy. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div></div> <div> </div><div>Thanks for this gesture, I seriously appreciate this.</div><div></div></blockquote><div> The least we could do, in the circumstances. Jameson </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> </div> <div> </div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn <<a href="mailto:jameson.quinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">jameson.quinn@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes > through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to go > through some of the application process over again. We don't need to > interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need a > specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take a week > or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to evaluate > the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it. Otherwise, how > can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've "completed" your internship? > > I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable calendar you > set up for those steps. > > Jameson > > 2009/4/26 kartik rustagi <<a href="mailto:kashes911@gmail.com" target="_blank">kashes911@gmail.com</a>> >> >> Hi David, >> I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell at >> my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be >> needing are: >> 1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my >> internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This letter >> should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should >> have some other kind of authentication. >> 2) And at the end of training I will need a completion certificate. >> >> I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will be >> more convenient. The official period of the internship will start from >> the last week of May after the university exams (going on right now). >> >> Delhi College of Engineering : <a href="http://www.dce.ac.in" target="_blank">www.dce.ac.in</a>, <a href="http://www.dce.edu" target="_blank">www.dce.edu</a> >> >> Regards >> Kartik Rustagi >> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn <<a href="mailto:jameson.quinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">jameson.quinn@gmail.com</a>> >> > wrote: >> >> Kartik, >> >> >> >> I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to contribute and >> >> fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more about what >> >> kind >> >> of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more on >> >> communications, because that's what I know as your expertise, but if >> >> you are >> >> interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there are >> >> probably >> >> other ideas for you. >> >> >> >> I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was >> >> talking >> >> with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had two >> >> ideas: >> >> >> >> Some way of completing your original project idea without involving >> >> Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned Webdav, >> >> but >> >> said "The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise) >> >> connection >> >> to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into Salut in >> >> some >> >> ad-hoc way.... So it would have to live outside of Salut, but still ask >> >> Salut for the IP address associated with a given contact, etc.... Maybe >> >> it >> >> could get its own Telepathy connection manager, but now this is really >> >> getting out of control." In other words, you'd have to have some >> >> serious >> >> conversations with him to redesign how this would work. >> >> One part of the original sugar design that has never been realized is >> >> the >> >> ability to share in activities without previously installing them on >> >> your >> >> machine. That would mean that whenever you joined a shared activity, >> >> your >> >> copy of sugar would automatically download, install, and run a copy of >> >> the >> >> host's version of the activity. It would require having a way to hash >> >> activities; the ability to have more than one version of the same >> >> activity >> >> simultaneously installed and running; some policy for garbage >> >> collecting old >> >> installed activity versions; and teaching Sugar to appropriately use >> >> the >> >> existing file transfer mechanisms in telepathy. I suspect that this >> >> project >> >> would be more under your own control than your original proposal, and I >> >> think that the time is ripe for Sugar to grow this functionality. >> >> >> >> As to the paperwork for your internship requirements at your school, >> >> Walter >> >> Bender (also copied on this mail) has said he could probably help you >> >> with >> >> that. Talk to him. >> > >> > Kartik, >> > Do you have a contact at your school for handling the internship >> > requirements? If so, please have him contact us so we can insure that >> > the paper work is set up for you. >> > >> > thanks >> > david >> > >> >> Hope this helps, and good luck! >> >> Jameson >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, kartik rustagi <<a href="mailto:kashes911@gmail.com" target="_blank">kashes911@gmail.com</a>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Jameson, >> >>> >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of station. First of all thanks a >> >>> lot for showing this gesture towards me, it really meant a lot. It >> >>> would have been had I got through Gsoc but none the less my passion >> >>> towards contributing to Sugar and open source in general still >> >>> remains. Yes resume building was one of the reason for me to apply for >> >>> Gsoc, but along with that it would have served as an internship that >> >>> we must do in the coming months of June and July. I will have to talk >> >>> to college authority whether working for Sugar will do the job or not. >> >>> In the mean time can you please let me know the projects that have >> >>> recently started or are yet to start and where I can fit in. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Regards >> >>> Kartik Rustagi >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> >> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> Kartik Rustagi > > </div></div>-- Regards Kartik Rustagi </div> </blockquote></div>