If there any belief that either FAT or FAT32 formatting is better then the other? Is that something I should be trying when I have problems? Thanks, Caroline <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32? I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer had their factory formatting. -walter <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1! > > I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not > FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3 > utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the > bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat necessary) > > XO-1 Firmware rev: Q2E35 > > USB key on boot no keypress=hangs at Xo symbol, no loading dot sequence > USB key on boot Check button pressed=shows Esc countdown > > press Esc in time then at ok Forth prompt, "boot" finds the stick & > starts Sugar 0.84.1 > > verified on both XO-1s I have available... > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot >> >> However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key pressed >> >> at OK forth prompt I typed: >> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth >> >> >> the script started then failed with this text: >> >> ************* >> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/live-rw, >> missing codepage or helper program, or other error >> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try >> dmesg | tail or so >> >> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck! >> >> bash: no job control in this shell >> bash-4.0# >> ************* >> >> Will try with last SoaS-1 image on my other XO thanks >> >> Sean >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>> hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days >>> before the new version came out! >>> >>> the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is... >>> >>> I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10 >>> hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was because of >>> that... our wiki page really needs precise information... which by the >>> way I am willing to write, if I manage to boot my XO with a SoaS image >>> been trying for days on end :-( >>> >>> don't get me wrong I appreciate the utility's existence since I only >>> have Macs in the house and I don't know how to "burn" a USB .iso from >>> my two GNU/Linux netbooks or old PC with a liveCD >>> >>> OK, will try again >>> >>> many thanks >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Wade Brainerd <<a href="mailto:wadetb@gmail.com">wadetb@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>> I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an >>>> 'olpc.fth' on there for you. >>>> >>>> Maybe the sticks were created with an older version? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>> OK thanks Wade >>>>> >>>>> If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one. >>>>> >>>>> Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no >>>>> SD card at all. >>>>> >>>>> Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a >>>>> 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I stick one on, >>>>> will it boot? >>>>> >>>>> I suspected this was the problem as I explored the sticks from the ok >>>>> prompt.... this is why we need some kind of integrity checker for a >>>>> "burned" stick, to check if anything is missing, or if the user has >>>>> monkeyed with files (Scout's honor I did not :-), or (say) the >>>>> timestamp of an <a href="http://x.org" target="_blank">x.org</a> config file, etc. >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Wade Brainerd <<a href="mailto:wadetb@gmail.com">wadetb@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>> Hey Sean, >>>>>> >>>>>> FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older image, I >>>>>> haven't tried the latest. I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a PATRIOT >>>>>> 2GB stick. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable >>>>>> partition on your XO. I think that might take priority over booting from >>>>>> USB. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can boot manually from OFW.. something like >>>>>> >>>>>> ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth >>>>>> >>>>>> should locate 'boot\olpc.fth' on the USB key and start it manually. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Wade >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at this >>>>>>> time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki: >>>>>>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC</a>)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page are >>>>>>> not working for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see there is a new SoaS-2 image in there, again, I don't think we >>>>>>> should be recommending to G1G1 owners they use that one yet? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I say, I have doubts about the SoaS-1 and SoaS-2 sticks I am using, >>>>>>> it appears the XO can't find anything to boot with on these sticks >>>>>>> while my Acer Aspire One boots up with both (?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose there's no way to boot manually from a stick from OFW? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dave Bauer <<a href="mailto:dave.bauer@gmail.com">dave.bauer@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I am having a more fundamental issue. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the >>>>>>> > crc >>>>>>> > and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk >>>>>>> > does >>>>>>> > not have the --xo options. It looks like those instructions use a newer >>>>>>> > version of livecd-tools. Is this impossible from Fedora 10? What else >>>>>>> > should >>>>>>> > I be using. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Dave >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Martin Dengler >>>>>>> >> <<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC</a> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere >>>>>>> >> >> because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB.> >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> * I see that most recent image is SoaS-2, is this what we want to >>>>>>> >> >> recommend right now to G1G1 owners? Would a choice be better? >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > SoaS-2 needs more testing and bugfixing IMHO. We shouldn't recommend >>>>>>> >> > it to G1G1 owners unless they want to be testers. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> * I can't boot my XO which is at firmware Q2E18 but I am ready to >>>>>>> >> >> try >>>>>>> >> >> a later firmware such as Q2E28 or Q2E34 >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > I don't think this is a firmware issue. I was booting off NAND with >>>>>>> >> > Q2E19. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> Sean >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > Martin >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>> >> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>>>>>> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Dave Bauer >>>>>>> > <a href="mailto:dave@solutiongrove.com">dave@solutiongrove.com</a> >>>>>>> > <a href="http://www.solutiongrove.com" target="_blank">http://www.solutiongrove.com</a> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > </div></div>-- <div class="im">Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> _______________________________________________ </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax