Generally speaking, I have to agree with Gary. I feel like I'm being invited to a Gallery opening, rather than being encouraged to try some software :) I would really prefer to see something along the lines of <a href="http://getfirefox.com/">http://getfirefox.com/</a> with content links pointing at well designed Wiki pages containing the content from this site. Anyway, the general structure of the site is really nice - I'm just wondering what its primary purpose is. And I'm a bit concerned with how much Wiki content is duplicated, and the fact that I have no idea how to change stuff, like adding the ActivityTeam to the contributors list for example. Best regards, Wade <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary C Martin <<a href="mailto:gary@garycmartin.com">gary@garycmartin.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On 27 Feb 2009, at 14:54, David Farning wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Christian Schmidt > <<a href="mailto:schmidt@pentagram.com">schmidt@pentagram.com</a>> wrote: >> Thanks Sean. We are in the final stages of proofing content on the >> betasite, >> and think we will go live this weekend. Stay tuned! > > Christian, I officially withdraw any reservations I had about the > new site:) </div>Sorry to be negative here. I must admit I still really struggle with this site, I had hoped I'd just seen a very early WIP. All those super large font marketing speak text clippings surrounded by ellipsis; when you click one you're jumped to another large font text /todo/ type list page, covered in block highlights. That odd pop-up menu, permanently floating over the same fixed place and in the way of the main text flow. Due to the large font's, and unusual line spacing, there's a lot of up/down page scrolling needed when really much of the content could fit on a single pages. I'm also not sure what are navigation links are what are not (non-standard, some coloured things are titles, some are links), or what pages I've already been to (link colours change from page to page, not based on visited or one). Not that I completely agree with everything he says, but I think Jakob Nielsen (<a href="http://www.useit.com/" target="_blank">http://www.useit.com/</a>) will have a coronary if he ever finds this site ;-) Hopefully it's just a combination of the code not working correctly in Safari, and/or me not being the target audience. --Gary P.S. In fairness I should also go through the site again and make a list of things I did like (i.e. the page with grid layout of activities, nice large colourful icons with simple clear descriptions). <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> > I showed it around my nephew's elementary school yesterday; The > teachers, teachers aids, and parents thought it was great! > > The most interesting aspect was the change from the dark to light > background. They thought the dark, over welming, background > represented what one 'expects' from computers and the light background > was what you would 'want' from computers. > > david > >> >> Christian >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Sean DALY [mailto:<a href="mailto:sdaly.be@gmail.com">sdaly.be@gmail.com</a>] >> To: ,Josh williams [mailto:<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a>] >> Cc: David Farning [mailto:<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>], <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >> , >> <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>, Christian Marc Schmidt >> [mailto:<a href="mailto:schmidt@pentagram.com">schmidt@pentagram.com</a>] >> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:05:48 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme >> unity >> >> Greetings Josh! >> >> In fact lots of work has been done on this by Christian, see for >> example: >> <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo</a> >> <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website</a> >> >> and, in beta: >> <a href="http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php</a> >> >> >> May I suggest you join the Marketing list? >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> >> >> We have IRC meetings on Tuesdays at 1600 UTC: >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/</a> >> 000341.html >> >> >> We are gearing up for the imminent Sugar 0.84 release. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sean >> Marketing Coordinator >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:08 AM, ,Josh williams <<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a> >> > >> wrote: >>> Hey David, >>> >>> I have had a quick look at the markup and the CSS, but I haven't >>> actually had a look at the PHP. I laughed when I saw the Mozilla >>> guys >>> had an IE style sheet, but then I figured they were probably just >>> reusing code. I was actually wondering if I could have a local >>> copy of >>> the remora code or access to a development or testing environment at >>> some point? >>> >>> I also agree that we need a common branding for all of the sites, >>> Gnome >>> is a great example I think Mozilla and Ubuntu are good examples >>> to. I >>> think a splash page for <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">www.sugarlabs.org</a> built on WordPress or >>> Drupal >>> would be a really good idea also. It could explain the what the >>> project >>> is, have a download link to the latest version, link to the wiki, >>> press >>> release, news etc. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> >>> David Farning wrote: >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd <<a href="mailto:wadetb@gmail.com">wadetb@gmail.com</a>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help! >>>>> I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I >>>>> wonder >>>>> off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make >>>>> addons.sl.o >>>>> look >>>>> *more* like the other sl.o sites? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Have you gotten a chance to look at the aslo code? >>>> >>>> Things are kind of confusing right now >>>> >>>>> with the different styles of wiki, trac, addons, schools, >>>>> gitorious, >>>>> api, >>>>> buildbot, etc. planet is the lone exception, it seems to follow >>>>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">wiki.sugarlabs.org</a> nicely :) >>>>> It would be great if the Design Team could comment on this >>>>> decision. >>>>> Here are a couple other web infrastructure ideas: >>>>> + Improve theming consistency among various SL.o sites. >>>>> + Single sign on cookie among all SL.o sites - perhaps OpenID >>>>> based. >>>>> + Standard nav header atop all SL.o sites rather than the >>>>> various nav >>>>> headers in different places, with different links. >>>>> >>>> >>>> The various gnome sites such as <a href="http://build.gnome.org" target="_blank">build.gnome.org</a> and <a href="http://www.gnome.org" target="_blank">www.gnome.org</a> >>>> are >>>> very nice examples of common theming tying sites together. Some >>>> thing >>>> similar for SL would be great. >>>> >>>> david >>>> >>>> >>>>> + Better splash page for Gitorious, looking more like GitWeb - a >>>>> page >>>>> with a >>>>> small search box at the top and the rest being a list of projects, >>>>> sorted by >>>>> recent activity, showing owner and last commit details >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Wade >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ,Josh williams >>>>> <<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, I'm working on the design of sugar labs add-ons with Mick >>>>>> Weiss. >>>>>> I've created a mock up at <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design</a> >>>>>> but I've haven't been able to contact anyone on the design team >>>>>> as of >>>>>> yet. I would also like to volunteer some of my time for other >>>>>> projects. >>>>>> I'm primarily a front-end designer with XHTML/CSS JavaScript >>>>>> skills, >>>>>> but >>>>>> I also know some PHP/MySQL and have a background in Linux. I >>>>>> also enjoy >>>>>> creating icons, so if there are any activities developers that >>>>>> need >>>>>> icons please contact me. My portfolio is over at <a href="http://tucsonlabs.com" target="_blank">http://tucsonlabs.com</a> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're a member of the design team or have some use for my >>>>>> skills, >>>>>> please let me know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>