This seems like a cool teachable moment if you are interested in learning more about learning theory and vocabulary.<br><br>The Sugar community is a Community of Practice CoP - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice</a><br> <br>The feedback of the Olin people is on inadequacy of the "legitimate peripheral participation" that is not having a clear path for people to participate at the margins of the group then move in.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimate_peripheral_participation">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimate_peripheral_participation</a><br> <br>How to use IRC is Tacit Knowledge (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacit_knowledge">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacit_knowledge</a>) for an open source developer.  So one of the ways we help people is turn it into Explicit Knowledge by explaining what it is and how to use.<br> <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net" target="_blank">tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, this is awesome feedback. I'm going to speak from the SugarLabs perspective.<br> <div><br> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Elsa Culler <<a href="mailto:eculler@gmail.com" target="_blank">eculler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > Hi,<br> ><br> > Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter) were<br> > asked to come up with a list of roadblocks  we have run into in trying to<br> > volunteer effectively.  Mel Chua asked me to forward it to these lists, so<br> > here is the list in text format:<br> ><br> > we have to come up with jobs ourselves, and we're not too good at it<br> ><br> > we don't know what we can do that is useful<br> ><br> > when we are told what to do, we have to check with other people to make sure<br> > it's ok<br> <br> </div>Point taken, we need to come up with a good list of interesting things<br> that people can start with. Somewhat related, I keep up a TODO list of<br> things in <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tomeu" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tomeu</a> that interested people<br> can take from my hands. Wonder how we could make this more<br> discoverable?<br> <div><br> > we don't have easy access to cool things that are going on in OLPC that<br> > would get people excited<br> ><br> >  -for example - it would make people excited just to hear accounts of<br> > deployments<br> <br> </div>Could you check out the weekly newsletter published in Walter's blog<br> (<a href="http://walterbender.org/" target="_blank">http://walterbender.org/</a>) and see how much it suits your needs?<br> SugarLabs cannot say much about OLPC deployments, but we hope to have<br> pilots of our own soon, and hopefully deployments will follow.<br> <div><br> > most meetings happen when we are in class and we don't know what happened or<br> > give input<br> ><br> >  - especially with commute (it takes us 1;30 hrs to get here)<br> <br> </div>Most SugarLabs meetings happen on IRC, so you wouldn't have the<br> commute issue. Please check out the meeting announcements in the<br> sugar-devel and iaep mailing lists and comment if the times don't work<br> out for you, we probably can change them.<br> <br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/</a><br> <div><br> > it's difficult to find out what OLPC does beyond the broad mission-statement<br> > sort of thing<br> <br> </div>Probably, SL could do better as well, can you comment about what's<br> missing in Walter's newsletter?<br> <div><br> > it took me 6 months to figure out how to use irc, i still don't know where<br> > trac is<br> <br> </div>Definitely a problem. We are thinking about having a landing page<br> similar to the one in <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/" target="_blank">http://www.eclipse.org/</a> that hopefully will give<br> a way for everybody to find how to better interact with us depending<br> on their role. The idea is that a prospecting developer would just<br> click on one of those icons and would find a simple explanation of the<br> first concepts that need to be grabbed in order to move forward. How<br> does that sound?<br> <div><br> > olpc-dev list emails are kind of over my head<br> <br> </div>Yeah, we should understand better this issue. Is a coder-newbies<br> mailing list a valid suggestion?<br> <div><br> > where are things? (on wiki, etc)<br> <br> </div>David Farning is working on this, following a never ending list of<br> complaints from Greg DeKoenigsberg.<br> <div><br> > note - if you teach us how stuff works we can tell more people/translate the<br> > information<br> <br> </div>Totally, we count on you to help us, we are totally aware that by<br> ourselves cannot do it.<br> <div><br> > I would like to develop activities, but up until now I didn't even know it<br> > was up for grabs<br> <br> </div>Ooops ;)<br> <br> > Thanks for listening!<br> <br> Thanks to you, this definitely helps.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Tomeu<br> </font><div><div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br> Sugar mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sugar@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">Sugar@lists.laptop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br>