<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net">tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian <<a href="mailto:cscott@cscott.net">cscott@cscott.net</a>> wrote:<br> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney <<a href="mailto:ed@laptop.org">ed@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br> >> The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed<br> >> until January, 2009.  The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9<br> ><br> </div>> As should be clear, I'm not happy at all with how this is being handled.<br> ><br> > We will have Martin, Marco, Tomeu, and Bernie here the week of the<br> > 17th (at least).  We should at least informally discuss 9.1 plans at<br> > that time.<br> <br> From my point of view, the situation is not so messed up as it could<br> be seen from inside.<br> </blockquote><div> <br>Scott, I agree that from the outside, things don't appear as messed up as you might feel.  One of our goals in attracting outside developers to Sugar is predictability through planning.<br><br> Open source development can be chaotic at the best of time.  We can reduce some of that chaos by 'planning the work, and, working the plan.' and then doing it again.  We want to reduce as many decisions as possible to policies, but no more.<br> <br>My concern with the XOcamp was the speed with which it was being put together.  Rather than being a long term planning tool, holding the XOcamp was becoming a fire which needed to be extinguished. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The XOCamp has been delayed, but this doesn't mean we need to stop any<br> work. Stuff that is going to be worked on in the near future can still<br> be discussed as we have been doing to date. I personally am not fully<br> convinced of the XOCamp idea, but Scott is a smart guy and, as I still<br> haven't attended properly to one, am happy to give him the benefit of<br> the doubt.<br> </blockquote><div> <br>I also support the idea that Scott is a bright guy.  For some time I have been trying to figure out how to engage him more effectively in upstream sugar development:)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Some people from outside have decided to visit Boston for some days,<br> is their trip not useful because the XOCamp has been delayed? I don't<br> think so at all! We have been working together for a long time and<br> these have been exciting times. We surely have lots to talk, share,<br> discuss, etc<br> <br> I'm confident that when the remotes come back to their homes, the work<br> atmosphere will have improved significantly and this will reflect in<br> our productivity.<br> <br> So, plans have changed, but are things really so bad?<br> <br> Regards,<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Tomeu<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________<br> Devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Devel@lists.laptop.org">Devel@lists.laptop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>