[Sugar-devel] GSoC'21 draft proposal for 'Improve and maintain 15 sugar activities'

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

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Ibiam Chihurumnaya
ibiam at sugarlabs.org



On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:23 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 3:38 PM Sourabha G <sourabha.project at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jui,
>> thanks for the suggestions.
>> 1. I'll definitely consider adding more explanation to the selected
>> activities ( I thought it would be more confusive. but if it adds more
>> clarity, I'll definitely add more description).
>> 2. I thought it would be best to discuss with the candidate who's going
>> to work on 'port to python3' to take up those activities so that it will be
>> soon ready to release. In case if this doesn't line up, I'll consider doing
>> it within GSoC deadline if time permits or post GSoC.
>>
>
> You don't know any student who would work on it at this time so it's
> better to include it as it's in the
> scope of the project.
>
> 3. Surely, I'll go through the open PRs and try to complete it unless it's
>> inevitable to make a new PR.
>> 4. The feature addition for imageviewer activity to add editing tools
>> would need OpenCV ( crop and filters).
>>
>
> Using OpenCV <https://github.com/opencv/opencv> is adding an extra
> dependency to the activity and I don't think that's a good idea,
> It increases maintenance duties and it becomes one more thing to worry
> about.
> Looking at the repo it does seem that it might be large and bundling it in
> the activity would increase the
> image size and that's not something we want.
>
> 5. Glad you liked the timestamp feature :)
>> About the students testing the activities, I thought it would be
>> off-topic to mention more in the proposal. Since the pandemic, I felt many
>> of my yoga students weren't coping up with the academics. So I started
>> teaching them math and science in my free time. Allowing them to test the
>> activities has shown noticeable improvement in their interest towards
>> learning. JAMath was the first activity to be tested. I came up with the
>> idea of adding basic game design features after taking their feedback.
>> There are many slight changes that a game might need. We might not realize
>> it until it's tested in the user environment. For example, the 3rd level in
>> JAMath is too fast for an average kid to even attempt. Many couldn't notice
>> the instruction in Recall activity. Apart from this, most loved to play
>> Turtlepond and stick-hero. No one could get the iqacttivity right :P
>>
>
> Thanks for sharing, if you can keep them engaged more with testing and
> working on improvements,
> that'll be great.
>
>
> --
>
> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> ibiam at sugarlabs.org
>
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 2:56 PM Jui Pradhan <juipradhan2k at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sourabha,
>>>                     Thanks for the updated draft proposal. I have few
>>> comments:
>>> - I read the thread where you explained the selected activities and
>>> activity-specific features you would like to add. It would be great if you
>>> could add the explanations from your email in the proposal. For example, in
>>> Recall I found the email explanation more clear than the one added in the
>>> proposal. In addition to that, I feel explanations like the one you gave
>>> for image-viewer activity should definitely be there in your proposal (by
>>> that I mean just by reading the draft proposal, its not clear which image
>>> editing tools you intend to add).
>>> - Most of the activities that involve a port to Gtk+3 also require
>>> porting to python3. (Activities like: Bounce, Compress, labyrinth, etc), if
>>> you feel you can work on port to python3 please feel free to add it to your
>>> proposal
>>> - For the activity Arithmetic, there is an open PR for porting to Gtk+3
>>> and python3, you may continue work on the same PR if you find that
>>> convenient.
>>> - The tools and technologies mentioned OpenCV. Did you find an activity
>>> that uses it? I would love to have a look.
>>> - I really liked your idea of adding a timestamp to messages in the chat
>>> activity!
>>>
>>> Also, I would love to hear about the activities you tested by letting
>>> the students use them. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sourabha G <sourabha.project at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, I will work on foodforce2-activity
>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/foodforce2-activity> instead of
>>>> followmeButia activity. It seems a few things weren't clearly mentioned in
>>>> the draft proposal, I have updated the draft proposal as per your
>>>> suggestions. Any critical comments and thoughts are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Apr, 2021, 10:11 am Chihurumnaya Ibiam, <ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you're biting more than you can chew as sometimes we
>>>>> can't really say how long it'll take
>>>>> to fix a problem unless one starts working on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The previous attempts at porting an activity can be a good starting
>>>>> point for you as you can complete
>>>>> the PR, nothing wrong with that, the only activity in the list that I
>>>>> think should be removed is followmeButia
>>>>> except you have the resources to test it on bare metal.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>>>>> ibiam at sugarlabs.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:43 PM Sourabha G <sourabha.project at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback, glad you appreciate my teaching yoga classes
>>>>>>>> to kids :)
>>>>>>>> By "Add help activity" I mean, I'd add Help for the selected
>>>>>>>> activities (Triples <https://github.com/sugarlabs/triples>,
>>>>>>>> cardsort <https://github.com/sugarlabs/cardsort>, iq-activity
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/iq-activity> and recall
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/recall>) by writing help pages to
>>>>>>>> them in the help-activity repository.
>>>>>>>> By "Contribute to the documentation" I mean,
>>>>>>>>  a. Update the Readme, activity documentation in help-activity
>>>>>>>> repository according to the changes made in the activity.
>>>>>>>>  b. Update any documentation that might ease the new contributors
>>>>>>>> for better understanding.
>>>>>>>> By "Fix issues that are required for an activity to be released" I
>>>>>>>> mean, there are few issues that require it to be fixed (other than feature
>>>>>>>> addition and port to GTK+ 3) inorder to make a new release of the activity
>>>>>>>> like #6 <https://github.com/sugarlabs/triples/issues/6> in triples
>>>>>>>> activity, #9 <https://github.com/sugarlabs/cardsort/issues/9> in
>>>>>>>> cardsort, #12 <https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtlepond/pull/12> in
>>>>>>>> turtlepond activity.
>>>>>>>> Selected activities:
>>>>>>>> A) To add basic game design features and activity specific features
>>>>>>>> (game design features are mentioned in draft proposal)
>>>>>>>>  1. Triples <https://github.com/sugarlabs/triples> : This activity
>>>>>>>> has only one level. Hence, I'll add levels and other basic game design
>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>  2. cardsort <https://github.com/sugarlabs/cardsort> : This
>>>>>>>> activity already has levels.Hence I will add other basic game design
>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>  3. iq-activity <https://github.com/sugarlabs/iq-activity> : This
>>>>>>>> activity seems to have only one level. Hence I'd add multiple levels and
>>>>>>>> other basic game design features.
>>>>>>>>  4. recall <https://github.com/sugarlabs/recall> : This activity
>>>>>>>> already has various levels. Hence I'd like to add basic game design
>>>>>>>> features. Also, it is a little hard to figure out the place of the
>>>>>>>> instruction about what image to recall each time. I'd like to enhance the
>>>>>>>> UX by placing the instruction in an intuitive place.
>>>>>>>> 5. wordcloud <https://github.com/sugarlabs/wordcloud/>: As
>>>>>>>> mentioned in #2 <https://github.com/sugarlabs/wordcloud/issues/2>,
>>>>>>>> I think it would make more sense if the input text was split by newlines
>>>>>>>> than by words. Also, as mentioned in #10
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/wordcloud/issues/10>, adding support
>>>>>>>> for emoji and special characters would be fun.
>>>>>>>>  6. turtlepond <https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtlepond> : This
>>>>>>>> activity has only 3 puzzles (3 levels). I think it adding basic game design
>>>>>>>> and more levels to this would enable mastering this kind of logical
>>>>>>>> thinking and make it more fun.
>>>>>>>>  7.classify-cats <https://github.com/sugarlabs/classify-cats> :,The
>>>>>>>> logic of the game is to classify cats on the basis of "odd"  and "even"
>>>>>>>> number of cats. Keeping this as level 1, multiple levels can be added
>>>>>>>> varying the criteria to classify the cats. Criteria might be "multiple of X
>>>>>>>> " and "not a multiple of X" . This feature would be added along with the
>>>>>>>> basic game design features.
>>>>>>>> B) To add original design features:
>>>>>>>>  8. chat <https://github.com/sugarlabs/chat> : I'd like to work on
>>>>>>>> the issue #17 <https://github.com/sugarlabs/chat/issues/17>.
>>>>>>>>  9. imageviewer-activity
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/imageviewer-activity>: It would be
>>>>>>>> handy to add basic image editing features such as crop and filters to this
>>>>>>>> activity.
>>>>>>>>  10. wikipedia-activity
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity>: This activity
>>>>>>>> has a very strong pedagogical value, I'm enthusiastic to bring this to use.
>>>>>>>> But I'm not sure how to update it. A checklist of what work needs to be
>>>>>>>> done to update this would be helpful.
>>>>>>>> C) To port to GTK+ 3 (Tentative list as mentioned in draft proposal)
>>>>>>>> Given the past attempts on porting these activities, I'm not sure
>>>>>>>> if it's right to choose these activities for porting to GTK+ 3 as a part of
>>>>>>>> GSoC. Thoughts on this from the mentors would be helpful.
>>>>>>>>  11. compress-activity
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/compress-activity>
>>>>>>>>  12. Bounce activity <https://github.com/sugarlabs/Bounce>
>>>>>>>>  13. followmeButia activit
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/followmeButia>
>>>>>>>> 14. Arithmetic activity <https://github.com/sugarlabs/arithmetic>
>>>>>>>> 15. Labyrinth activity
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/labyrinth-activity>
>>>>>>>>  Kindly let me know the desirability and the relevance of the
>>>>>>>> features I plan to add. Also, Based on your experience and judgment, kindly
>>>>>>>> let me know if I'm biting more than I could chew for the time constraint of
>>>>>>>> GSoC. I will select the activities accordingly :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Sourabha G.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:02 PM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <
>>>>>>>> ibiam at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sourabha,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the draft, a few comments;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "Add help activity" - second item in the Honey
>>>>>>>>> part -?
>>>>>>>>> When you say "Contribute to the documentation", could you be a bit
>>>>>>>>> more specific? What documentation do you intend to contribute to?
>>>>>>>>> The fifth item "Fix issues that are required for an activity to be
>>>>>>>>> released" seems vague,
>>>>>>>>> what issues are you referring to here and in what activities?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You've selected less that 15 activities as stated by the project
>>>>>>>>> idea, we definitely can talk about
>>>>>>>>> the activities you'd want to work on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like the fact that you teach yoga classes to kids, I think
>>>>>>>>> that's amazing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>>>>>>>>> ibiam at sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:45 AM Sourabha G <
>>>>>>>>> sourabha.project at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is my draft proposal for the 'Improve and maintain 15 sugar
>>>>>>>>>> activities' project as a part of GSoC-20201. Thoughts and suggestions are
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Sourabha G
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