[Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 137, Issue 6

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Today's Topics:

   1. User Experience for keyboard shortcuts (Redo Button) (Ryan Van)
   2. Re: Music Blocks v3.0 is released. (Walter Bender)
   3. Proposal to move communication to other platform (Prashant Sengar)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 22:30:16 -0800
From: Ryan Van <ryan.van.gg at gmail.com>
To: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: [Sugar-devel] User Experience for keyboard shortcuts (Redo
        Button)
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As of right now there exists a redo button without keyboard shortcuts. What
are your opinions on whether or not Ctrl +Shift+Z or Ctrl+Y would be more
appropriate (the logic to have both might be too complex and not worth the
time to implement)?

Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 07:25:58 -0500
From: Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
To: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
Cc: Sugar-dev Devel <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks v3.0 is released.
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:52 PM Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sugar yes. The new version of Browse should work nicely.
> Sugarizer, no. Lionel has said it is too large.
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 7:53 PM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to add Music Blocks to Sugarizer or Sugar?
>>
>
At James: What is the recommended approach to embedding inside Browse these
days?
In the past, I simply modified the HOME_PAGE_GCONF_KEY to use a copy of
musicblocks included in the bundle. Do you recommend removing some
unrelated Browse functionality, such as the search bar? Do you think it is
worth modifying Browse itself to make it easier to do this sort of
embedding?

regards.

-walter

>
>> On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
>> > The release reflects the contributions made during Google Code-in
>> 2019-2020. It
>> > is being designated as a major release since there are numerous changes
>> to the
>> > user experience (e.g., Widget UX) and many underlying structural
>> changes (e.g.,
>> > the new Block API and storage mechanism) that impact developers. An
>> overhaul of
>> > the graphics update mechanism has lead to a major reduction in CPU
>> usage. As
>> > far as I know, there is only one "incompatibility" with previous
>> versions; it
>> > is in regard to synchronization: there are some projects that worked
>> previously
>> > that may now require the use of either the Sync block or the No-clock
>> block.
>> > (Details are outlined in the release notes.)
>> >
>> > A tip of the hat to some of the GCI participants who worked so hard to
>> make
>> > this release possible: Bottersnike, AndreaGon, Pidddgy and
>> Nepaltechguy2. They
>> > not only contributed code, but also insights into the design and
>> > implementation. Also, thanks to the community members who provided them
>> with
>> > code reviews and feedback (notably @eohomegrownapps, @fakela, and
>> @pikurasa).
>> > It is also important to acknowledge some of our users, Teddy Dildine
>> and Henry
>> > Rico, who have been inspiring much of the recent developments and bug
>> fixes.
>> > Look for some of their work on the Planet. Karin Kinoshita at Gakken
>> has also
>> > done testing and translation work.
>> >
>> > [1] [1]https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsugarlabs%2Fmusicblocks%2Freleases%2Ftag%2Fv3.0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C94535be827e74c56daf308d7c05d7ec9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637189380104419961&sdata=GqxyLRF1JCEcZl%2Bn86VtSqN1uYxXW3lpaqYgEeffKD0%3D&reserved=0
>> >
>> > -walter
>> >
>> > --
>> > Walter Bender
>> > Sugar Labs
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>> >
>> > References:
>> >
>> > [1] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsugarlabs%2Fmusicblocks%2Freleases%2Ftag%2Fv3.0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C94535be827e74c56daf308d7c05d7ec9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637189380104419961&sdata=GqxyLRF1JCEcZl%2Bn86VtSqN1uYxXW3lpaqYgEeffKD0%3D&reserved=0
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:03:31 +0530
From: Prashant Sengar <prashantsengar5 at gmail.com>
To: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other
        platform
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Hi,

I am sure this request must have been raised earlier as well. I wanted to
ask if Sugar could create a communication channel on another platform such
as a discord server, Slack or Telegram instead of IRC to make communication
easier.

The reason why others will be a better option:
1. The chats will be accessible even if I am offline for a while, unlike
IRC where I cannot see any earlier data.
2. IRC cannot be used on mobile devices, so it creates a barrier in
communication. On the other hand, the other chat applications are available
on all platforms for everyone to use.

I would like to request the team to please consider this request. If such
request has been made earlier and denied due to some reasons, then I would
like to know them so that I can understand the reasons and work accordingly.

Regards.
Prashant Sengar
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