[Sugar-devel] Proposal Review request

[Jui Pradhan]

Thanks,
Thanks Ayush! Glad to know you liked my proposal. 😊 I actually don't think
messaging mentors on personal mail will change anything now. When the
mentors start reviewing and going through proposals in detail, they will be
able to figure out if my concerns are actually valid and if it is a direct
copy paste, then the style of writing is evident. Besides I remember James
saying his evaluation will be 50 % right fit so it is fine to leave it to
the mentors to assess plagiarism and copy pasted statements. All I wanted
to ensure was that my proposals are being considered and also bring to
their attention that many points were my hard work and ideas.

Saumya, I don't mind at all as long as the mentors dont mind! No hard
feelings. I feel we should focus on contributing more than discussing about
this issue now. I guess the whole idea for sugarlabs participating in GSoC
was to get more contributors, so this might be the least of their concerns
right now.

Thanks for replying James. I am relieved that our proposals are being
considered.  :)

Regards,
Jui Pradhan



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:43 AM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> Thanks for your mutual review and comments.
>
> I've briefly analysed both proposals looking for plagiarism using the
> pdftotext and sim_text programs from poppler-utils and
> similarity-tester.
>
> With the default settings, four fragments of the checklist for porting
> activities to Python 3 have similarity.  The text in these sections
> was copied from work by myself and others on the Python 3 Porting
> Guide and on GitHub issue progress checklists.  So it is not direct
> plagiarism, but incomplete quotation.
>
> I did foresee plagiarism.  We said in
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC#want-to-work-with-us-
> "proposals for Sugar Labs; must be your own work, and not the work of
> others, except where the work of others is minimal, duly credited and
> quoted," and we gave the option of not posting to the mailing list.
>
> However, I don't see how both of you could have avoided using our
> Python 3 Porting Guide, and it was obvious as part of the idea.
>
> So I've decided this isn't enough of a reason to ignore your proposals.
>
> Other organisations do not encourage proposals to be published.  Sugar
> Labs has welcomed publishing before the deadline so that community
> members can contribute reviews.  We didn't get many reviews from
> non-mentors this year, so I'm inclined to skip publishing next year.
>
> (There was one other proposal for the same project idea, but it was a
> single paragraph personal introduction.)
>
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 01:37:05AM +0530, Saumya Mishra wrote:
> > Hello Jui,
> >     Thanks for reviewing the proposal. I really liked your idea of
> putting
> > right fit table in proposal. So I also do same in my proposal, hope you
> are
> > fine with it. But on rest others points I was working from starting.
> Hope it
> > cleared your doubts.
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed 1 Apr, 2020, 12:25 AM Jui Pradhan, <[1]juipradhan2k at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Saumya,
> >                       Just went through your final proposal (opened the
> doc
> >     link). Saw you added my bulleted method of porting activities to
> Python 3 ;
> >     observing closely related codebase of other activities, the right
> fit table
> >     and more points I mentioned in my draft proposal. I feel delighted
> to know
> >     that I have inspired you greatly! :)
> >     But I just hope having the same points in our proposal, in no way
> affects
> >     the proposal reviewing by mentors.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Jui Pradhan
> >
> >     On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 1:59 AM Saumya Mishra <[2]
> 2017230 at iiitdmj.ac.in>
> >     wrote:
> >
> >         I have shared my draft proposal of GSoc for Port Sugar and core
> >         activities to Python 3 . Kindly do review and suggestions are
> welcomed.
> >         Link-[3]https://docs.google.com/document/d/
> >         1xKhvhCcxdPgQn8VglpcNWlPF6tk8xpw9zdNu1RsYpoA/edit?usp=sharing
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Sugar-devel mailing list
> >         [4]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         [5]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:juipradhan2k at gmail.com
> > [2] mailto:2017230 at iiitdmj.ac.in
> > [3]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xKhvhCcxdPgQn8VglpcNWlPF6tk8xpw9zdNu1RsYpoA/edit?usp=sharing
> > [4] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [5] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
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> James Cameron
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