[Sugar-devel] Sugar on Debian 10 (Buster)?

[James Cameron]

It's a problem with Metacity, which is ignoring the Journal's request
to be iconified.

Press the F3 key.

Or press the F6 key then click on the home view icon.

Or put the mouse on the edge (difficult in a typical VM).

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 08:08:26AM -0400, Jeff Elkner wrote:
> Hi James and Alex,
> 
> I've setup a VM with Sid and ran:
> 
> $ sudo apt install sugar sucrose lightdm
> 
> which gave me the same problem I had on testing - I only see the
> journal and can't find the main Sugar desktop window (note: I did see
> it flash briefly on the screen before it disappeared).
> 
> I've attached two package_list files that come from running:
> 
> $ dpkg -l | grep sugar > package_llst.txt
> 
> and
> 
> $ dpkg -l | grep sucrose > package_llst2.txt
> 
> Please let me know what I should do next.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 12:48 AM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > python-sugar3_0.112-3 has migrated to testing just now.
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:56:03AM -0700, Alex Perez wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Most, if not all, of the Sugar-specific bugs that are present in Debian
> > > should be fixed if you use the "0.112-3" (the 3 is critically important)
> > > Debian packages from the _unstable_ Debian repo. They have not yet been
> > > promoted to testing, and will likely not be included in Debian 10 when it is
> > > released, as it is late in the package freeze process.
> > >
> > > So, you have a few options here...the easiest thing to do would be to run an
> > > entire "unstable" install of Debian, since you will get these packages by
> > > default, but otherwise, you have to configure Apt with the unstable repo,
> > > and then use package pinning. This is documented at https://serverfault.com/questions/371383/install-whitelist-of-packages-using-unstable-in-debian.
> > >
> > > See https://packages.debian.org/buster/sucrose for a list of these packages,
> > > and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#Installation can explain how to
> > > enable the unstable apt repo on a stable or testing install.
> > >
> > > This may also be of use https://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Elkner wrote on 5/15/19 9:54 AM:
> > > > Great to meet you (virtually), Alex and James.  I'm a high school /
> > > > community college teacher in Arlington, Virginia who was an early
> > > > member of the OLPC community here in the DC area.  I run Debian in my
> > > > classroom and would very much be interested in using the Sugar desktop
> > > > to work on that platform.  It doesn't currently seem to work.  I don't
> > > > have the capacity to fix it myself, but I can provide reliable testing
> > > > and feedback in an educational setting should that be of use to you.
> > > > I'm hoping to rejoin the Sugar community once it is in a state where
> > > > it can be used both in my classroom and on Raspberry Pi's.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Jeff Elkner
> > > > Arlington Career Center
> > > > Arlington, VA
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Alex and James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess you both miss this thread. Can you please guide Jeff on how to get started?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2019, 8:14 AM Jeff Elkner <jeff.elkner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Sugar Labs Devs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am a high school / community college computer science teacher in
> > > > > > Arlington Virginia who was an active member of the OLPC project for
> > > > > > years and who would like to rejoin the community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am convinced being able to run the Sugar desktop on the same
> > > > > > underlying OS (Debian) as Raspbian uses is the key to that working for
> > > > > > me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried creating a basic buster install and then running:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ sudo apt install sugar sucrose lightdm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The result is not a usable Sugar installation.  I am most eager to
> > > > > > participate as a tester, power user, and curriculum developer, but I
> > > > > > need to start with a working system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Elkner
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
> > >
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > http://quozl.netrek.org/

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> ii  python-sugar3                             0.112-3                         all          Sugar Learning Platform - toolkit Python bindings
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> ii  sugar-read-activity                       121-1                           all          Sugar Learning Platform - document viewer activity
> ii  sugar-session                             0.112-6                         all          Sugar Learning Platform - window manager
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> ii  sucrose                                   0.112-6                         all          Sugar Learning Platform - Sucrose


-- 
James Cameron
http://quozl.netrek.org/