[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Separate python version packages for sugar-toolkit-gtk3

James Cameron quozl at laptop.org
Thu Jul 25 19:08:17 EDT 2019

I've reviewed https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide

However, sugar-toolkit-gtk3 does not have setup.py method of build and
install, instead we use GNU autotools.

Let's step back and look at the problem again.

We have a completed Port to Python 3, but testing it is very
difficult, because of the large number of careful steps needed to
install the toolkit and other components.

Sugar Labs could provide a packaged toolkit and components, and this
may encourage testing.

A non-goal is to do the packaging _for_ the Fedora, Debian or Ubuntu
projects.  While that would be nice, it may be done by experts later.

Sugar Labs doesn't have the backing of experts in packaging, and when
we reach out for help we don't get results.

Perhaps a quick solution is to write a shell script to make a
python3-sugar3 package containing the same files as the python-sugar3
package, except the /usr/bin files, but moved to the python3

Then we could provide the .deb files for manual install.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:11:13PM +0530, sukhdeep gill wrote:
> Hi Aniket,
> As the packages were incomplete, I removed the repo to avoid confusion. I've
> re-uploaded them and added a reference source to what steps I took to create
> the packages in the README. Also, please check James's comments regarding these
> packages.
> Thanks,
> Sukhdeep Gill
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:38 PM ANIKET MATHUR <[1]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in>
> wrote:
>     G'day Sukhdeep, 
>     You have removed the packages repository from your github. I would be happy
>     to analyze those packages.
>     Also would you please tell how you proceeded?
>     Thanks!
>     On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:58 PM James Cameron <[2]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>         On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 01:02:33PM +0530, sukhdeep gill wrote:
>         > Python packages:
>         > [3]https://github.com/sukhdeepg/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-python-packages.
>         > This is the first step with respect to an earlier reply from James
>         > Cameron. I've understood the depth of the issue from this result
>         > after the Debian bug 931666 search. If this isn't the right way,
>         > please let me know.
>         Thanks.  Happy to review.  The main problem is that you did not
>         examine the packages, compare them with Debian packages, or test the
>         packages.
>         (a) your package version should include something to discriminate
>         against potential Debian packages yet to be provided by Debian
>         developers, or packages by other Sugar Labs developers,
>         (b) your package version should include the git hash; the file
>         src/sugar3/util.py has the latest HEAD of 5043d53, but the version of
>         your packages is 0.114-1,
>         (c) your package python-sugar3_0.114-1_all.deb includes a Python 3
>         program (sugar-activity3) and Python 2 artefacts in
>         /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sugar3 ... but sugar-activity3 should
>         not be present, and this is a fault of our build in
>         sugar-toolkit-gtk3,
>         (d) your package python-sugar3_0.114~python3-1_all.deb includes a
>         Python 2 program (sugar-activity) and Python 2 artefacts in
>         /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sugar3 ... but sugar-activity should
>         not be present (this is a fault of our build in sugar-toolkit-gtk3)
>         and the artefacts should be for Python 3 not Python 2,
>         (e) both packages are named python-sugar3 ... but they should have
>         different names (python-sugar3 and python3-sugar3), so they can be
>         installed at the same time.
>         Please do examine the packages and test them carefully before
>         publishing your work.  Test by installing the packages and running
>         Sugar and the set of Fructose (core) activities.
>         Hope that helps!
>         --
>         James Cameron
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> References:
> [1] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> [2] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [3] https://github.com/sukhdeepg/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-python-packages
> [4] http://quozl.netrek.org/
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James Cameron

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