[Sugar-devel] Suggestion on moving from IRC to Gitter

Shiv shiv369shiv at gmail.com
Sun Jan 20 07:01:13 EST 2019

Gitter uses your Twitter or GitHub username and avatar. You don’t set up
and maintain a new identity on Gitter. You use your existing one. In a
sense it looks like an extension of GitHub or Twitter, like you already
have an account on Gitter and you just start using it. When your read
discussions on Gitter it doesn’t look like posted by Gitter users but by
Twitter/GitHub users.
I agree with switching from IRC to Gitter.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 17:22, Sumit Srivastava <sumitsrisumit at gmail.com>

> +1 for Gitter over IRC given the recent spam tackling measures taken by
> freenode.
> Other advantages have already been mentioned, I raised this concern over
> mailing list too.
> It's high time we consider a switch.
> Regards
> Sumit Srivastava
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta, <vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This
>> discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow
>> contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could
>> get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people
>> in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have
>> plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to
>> see how it pays off in the long run.
>> The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among
>> all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching
>> the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance
>> of  "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is
>> good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective
>> contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think
>> Gitter can help here.
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra <rrbothra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter.
>>> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for
>>> people to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it
>>> down and stick to IRC.
>>> Following are my reasons for the change;
>>> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times
>>> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance,
>>> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline
>>> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to
>>> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve
>>> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i
>>> nactive
>>> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each;
>>> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website.
>>> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up
>>> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity
>>> even more.
>>> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat
>>> systems has their own advantages.
>>> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues.
>>> I am now comfortable in using IRC because:
>>>  - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out
>>>  - I now know at what time might a contributor come online,
>>>    but it took time to figure out
>>>  - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail,
>>>    if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out
>>> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new
>>> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-)
>>> [1]:
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html
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>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
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