[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Sugar on Fedora looking forward

[James Cameron]

On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:12:05AM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Hey James,
> 
> Happy New Year!
> 
> > > > > >> 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well and
> > > > > >> truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key Activities
> > > > > >> that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones here.
> > > > > >> Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They were moved.  Check the release announcements and the tarball
> > > > > > directories.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-20.tar.bz2
> > > > >
> > > > > Ha, already have that, will review packaging and make sure it's all right.
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/Record-200.tar.bz2
> > > > >
> > > > > Awesome! This makes me happy, thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > >> 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still haven't
> > > > > >> moved to gtk3, any plans?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.  We have a contributor working on that now, so please make sure
> > > > > > we know which ones Fedora think are still GTK+ 2.  Time critical.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I plan on
> > > > > >> retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good riddance
> > > > > >> sugar-presence-service!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've no news on this one.  Best to contact Etoys project.
> > > > >
> > > > > They stopped responding years ago, they never even got around to
> > > > > removing the presence-server dep. I've retired it now.
> > > > >
> > > > > >> 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real soon
> > > > > >> now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was some work
> > > > > >> years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but I don't
> > > > > >> remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and has
> > > > > >> been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
> > > > > >> possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail in the
> > > > > >> coffin for Sugar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our port to Python 3 is going well.  We have good working code in pull
> > > > > > requests and branches, and plan to merge it once we have the critical
> > > > > > components complete.  Our plan is in the GitHub projects tab for the
> > > > > > organisation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Awesome news! Is there a rough timeline for this?
> > > >
> > > > Following last year's release plan; a v0.113 around 9th September, and
> > > > a v0.114 around 6th October.
> > >
> > > What's the status of the 0.113/114 releases? I'd like to start to
> > > working on the python3 builds for Fedora 30 sooner rather than
> > > later.
> >
> > Stalled on sugar-toolkit-gtk3 port from static to PyGObject
> > introspection for Telepathy.
> >
> > There's still no Python 3 support for the static binding in the
> > Telepathy project, though the binding has been ported to Python 3 by
> > our developer Rahul.  So porting to PyGObject seems like the right way
> > to go.  It is in progress.  PRs #389 and #383.
> >
> > With only myself and Rahul looking at this, I'd guess another few
> > months before a release with Python 3 support.  I'll put it down for
> > discussion at the weekly meeting.
> 
> Just thought I'd do a check in to see how you're getting on with the
> python3 port, just trying to do a bit of planning for the next few
> months.

No progress.  Also no testers yet apart from Rahul.  I'd give it
another six months.

> I updated all the various Activities to the latest versions the other
> day, except I couldn't find the latest version of TurtleBlocks, on the
> download site the latest is 216 and I couldn't find it in git.

Thanks for noticing.  Yes, same here.

Guess Walter too busy; so I used the checklist;
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#checklist---maintainer

Downloaded and confirmed the bundle matches fbc61222ba95aa1118976434d6951647fea8e13c.

Added tag to GitHub repository.

Uploaded source to;
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleBlocks-218.tar.bz2

That should get you going.  Test it though, 'cause I've made three
traceback fixes after v218 that aren't in it.

> Peter

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James Cameron
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