[Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

Tony Anderson tony at olenepal.org
Mon Apr 15 20:54:47 EDT 2019


Hi, Samson

At the time I will be in Germany. I expect to attend Europython in Basel 
July 8-14. I also plan to attend All Things Open in Raleigh NC October 13-15

Tony

On 4/15/19 5:02 PM, Samson Goddy wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> I agree with you. Are you coming to Pycon?
>
>
> Regards
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:55 AM Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net 
> <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
>
>     What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active
>     users
>     reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs).
>
>     A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar is a
>     viable
>     educational platform. So marketing does not need to be concerned
>     about
>     $, it needs to be concerned about the characteristics of Sugar
>     that make
>     it an attractive option for educators. At such a conference it is
>     possible to make presentations - ofen there is an educational track.
>     More importantly there is an opportunity to have an exhibit (booth).
>     This booth can provide many examples of Sugar running on platforms
>     other
>     than the XO (make sure there some XO pictures visible since this
>     attracts interest to a booth.) Sugarizer can demonstrate that
>     Sugar is
>     available for smartphones, tablets and other devices. Sugar can
>     show its
>     capabilities on Ubuntu, Raspbian. Windows is a special case since
>     Miccrosoft has been able to lock educators into Windows. Showing that
>     Sugar is viable in a Windows-based deployment may be beyond our
>     current
>     cabability.
>
>     Our goal should be to attract new contributors and to find new
>     deployment opportunities.
>
>     Tony
>
>     On 4/15/19 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>     > You've all had an interesting discussion.  I'll add my points
>     now; in
>     > the form of questions and answers.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: are there funds available for marketing?
>     >
>     > A: in motion 2019-01 on 4th January, the Oversight Board
>     preserved the
>     > GSoC 2018 mentor stipends for marketing,
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: are there any other funds available for marketing?
>     >
>     > A: yes, the Oversight Board could spend up to about $90k, but such a
>     > spend would have to have compelling justification.  Swag isn't
>     > compelling.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: have funds been spent on marketing?
>     >
>     > A: yes, the Oversight Board agreed to spend money on travel for two
>     > members to PyCon 2019.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: how will the rest of the funds be spent?
>     >
>     > A: apart from reserving funds for marketing expenses relating to
>     > SCaLE, and not yet applied for, the Oversight Board has made no
>     other
>     > decision.
>     >
>     > However, the board has received some marketing plans, has asked for
>     > changes, and will hear any proposals.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: will a proposal or marketing plan have greater merit if it comes
>     > from a team who call themselves marketing?
>     >
>     > A: no, because;
>     >
>     > - the Oversight Board has not formed a marketing team,
>     >
>     > - our original marketing team, who had people qualified in
>     marketing,
>     >    left long ago,
>     >
>     > - the Oversight Board consist of developers or other subject matter
>     >    experts, can see a claim for legitimacy a mile off, and
>     discount it
>     >    easily,
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: but isn't there's a marketing team on the Wiki?
>     >
>     > A: it is out of date.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: but aren't there a whole lot of teams on the Wiki?
>     >
>     > A: it is out of date.  Please work together with all of Sugar Labs,
>     > don't look for a team.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: does the Software Freedom Conservancy control the funds?
>     >
>     > A: to a limited extent.  The Conservancy will act on decisions
>     by the
>     > Oversight Board provided those decisions are legal and follow
>     > Conservancy policies, so any marketing also has to follow those
>     > policies.
>     >
>     >
>     > Comment;
>     >
>     > Gathering more developers who are active is our key to survival as a
>     > community.  If our count of active developers reaches zero,
>     there will
>     > be a short delay and then something in the environment will
>     change and
>     > Sugar, Sugarizer or Music Blocks won't be usable.  That is one of
>     > reasons why we are engaged with Google Summer of Code and Google
>     > Season of Docs.
>     >
>     > We have some people who are interested in helping but have yet to
>     > learn the skills to contribute actively.  I'd like to see that
>     change.
>     > Get started with programming, write new Sugar activities, fix
>     > activities, and write documentation.
>     >
>     >
>     > Q: what will happen if I do nothing except talk?
>     >
>     > A: nothing.  ;-)
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:58:14AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
>     >> Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community!
>     >>
>     >> These days I'm thinking about two things:
>     >>
>     >> 1. How to expand the SL developer community?
>     >>
>     >> 2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs that was
>     discussed a few
>     >> weeks ago in an email thread?
>     >>
>     >> As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more inputs from
>     everyone. Shall I
>     >> start a new thread for new inputs?
>     >>
>     >> And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we make great
>     things happen in
>     >> the community. Glad that you noticed.
>     >>
>     >> Regards
>     >> Sumit
>     >>
>     >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh,
>     <[1]juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>      Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that were
>     granted by Google  for
>     >>      GSOC ( I guess ) remains with the community and it is
>     being controlled by
>     >>      SFC of which Sugar Labs is a member project.
>     >>      I see that Sumit initiated about swags, but maybe it might
>     not have been
>     >>      made to move further due to absence of the budget proposal.
>     >>
>     >>      So if anyone of us can try working on proposal for
>     marketing along with a
>     >>      marketing team that would be great and would become easy
>     for Board to
>     >>      review and add up their decisions.
>     >>
>     >>      On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:39 am Vipul Gupta
>     <[2]vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com>
>     >>      wrote:
>     >>
>     >>          Thanks, Jaskirat, I have also attached an email
>     snippet regarding GSoC
>     >>          Mentor Stipends on Sumit's request that was
>     reallocated to the
>     >>          marketing committee for making shirts, and stickers. I
>     am not sure what
>     >>          is the progress of the same since then or the status?
>     But looking
>     >>          forward to hearing from any GSoC 2018 mentors as to
>     what happened to
>     >>          those funds.
>     >>
>     >>          Cordially,
>     >>          Vipul Gupta
>     >>          [3]Mixster | [4]Github
>     >>
>     >>          On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jaskirat Singh <[5]
>     >> juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>              Hi Vipul,
>     >>
>     >>              Yes I would be at Open Source Summit Europe in
>     France, It would be
>     >>              indeed to interact with communities/people for
>     introducing
>     >>              sugarlabs and its productivity there.
>     >>
>     >>              Thanks
>     >>
>     >>              On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 11:30 am Vipul Gupta <[6]
>     >> vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>                  Sounds like a plan! Thank you for your
>     support, Jasikrat. I see
>     >>                  you are planning to go for Open Source Summit,
>     would you mind
>     >>                  to be our spokesperson there.
>     >>                  Maybe some opportunity comes from the Linux
>     Foundation as well.
>     >>                  I also wanted to start a discussion on the
>     use of funds
>     >>                  allocated for Sugar Labs's merchandise at the
>     end of Google
>     >>                  Summer of Code using the designs made in
>     Google Code-In.
>     >>
>     >>                  Cordially,
>     >>                  Vipul Gupta
>     >>                  [7]Mixster | [8]Github
>     >>
>     >>                  On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM Jaskirat
>     Singh <[9]
>     >> juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>                      Hi Vipul,
>     >>
>     >>                      This sounds really good. I really
>     appreciate you both for
>     >>                      representing Sugar labs at PyCon.
>     >>
>     >>                      Well, I proposed somewhat same thing like
>     Organising Sugar
>     >>                      Summits in various countries, I am still
>     in the middle of
>     >>                      it to draft my proposal for the same. So
>     once its done I
>     >>                      will share here.
>     >>                      And I think this is a good opportunity as
>     well for us to
>     >>                      represent Sugar Labs at such a great platform.
>     >>
>     >>                      Thanks
>     >>
>     >>                      On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am Vipul Gupta
>     <[10]
>     >> vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>                          Hello folks,
>     >>                          At the end of 2018, we started the
>     Outreach works for
>     >>                          Sugar Labs. At first, we thought of
>     sharing several
>     >>                          accomplishments throughout Google
>     Code-In to keep the
>     >>                          people in the loop on various social
>     media platforms,
>     >>                          as well as sharing experiences of
>     Google Summer of Code
>     >>                          students and their projects held in
>     2018 for a positive
>     >>                          impact.
>     >>
>     >>                          We thought we can go bigger and with
>     that thought in
>     >>                          mind represent Sugar Labs on larger
>     platforms in front
>     >>                          of communities. I proposed PyCon to be
>     a great choice
>     >>                          for the same. Considering OLPC
>     represented XO laptops
>     >>                          being part of PyCon 2008 (An article
>     by [11]Tony)
>     >>                          Hence, we submitted a proposal for
>     talks about Sugar
>     >>                          Labs in the Education Summit of PyCon
>     Cleveland 2019,
>     >>                          and I am very happy to inform that we
>     have in fact been
>     >>                          selected. It's a great accomplishment
>     for us all.
>     >>
>     >>                          Samson would be representing our
>     community at PyCon
>     >>                          Cleveland. I, unfortunately, due to my
>     university exams
>     >>                          won't be able to go. As much as I
>     loved drafting the
>     >>                          proposal with Samson and be would like
>     to meet and talk
>     >>                          about Sugar Labs, I am happy that
>     Samson has a chance
>     >>                          to be at PyCon and will do great. We
>     are still raw in
>     >>                          your efforts and have lots to improve.
>     Would love to
>     >>                          have more suggestions on things we
>     should be doing, and
>     >>                          also planning to hold workshops
>     regarding Sugar in many
>     >>                          countries in the near future.
>     >>
>     >>                          Thanks,
>     >>
>     >>                          Cordially,
>     >>                          Vipul Gupta
>     >>                          [12]Mixster | [13]Github
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>     >> References:
>     >>
>     >> [1] mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>
>     >> [2] mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com>
>     >> [3] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/
>     >> [4] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048
>     >> [5] mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>
>     >> [6] mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com>
>     >> [7] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/
>     >> [8] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048
>     >> [9] mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2000 at gmail.com>
>     >> [10] mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:vipulgupta2048 at gmail.com>
>     >> [11]
>     http://www.olpcnews.com/use_cases/technology/pycon_2008_and_olpc.html
>     >> [12] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/
>     >> [13] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048
>     >> [14] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>     >> [15] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >> [16] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
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